My apologies for the incorrect info I promulgated earlier this week for our European observers. After getting a post SECO 1 elset, and reviewing the launch profile shown at the Florida Today Space Online site, I made a big BOO-BOO. I originally predicted a great pass for the London area. It turns out that the booster and payload were still in the initial orbit (185 x 1240 km) at that time. Using the on-orbit elset I posted was off in several ways. The actual object showed up in the London area about 3 minutes later, but more importantly was much LOWER and in SHADOW, thus not visible. Lessons learned: 1) Verify on-orbit elset against launch profile so I can specify when the elset becomes useable. 2) When possible, provide a SECO 1 type elset. MEA CULPA Ron Lee PS. Great job Craig in finding the four Globalstars. Despite my boo-boo, I think my elset did allow one person to see a rocket burn, truly a unique sighting. I will try to provide info on such events on future launches when I can get the info.