I should note Mir did come by a 6th time that evening. But even with 20x80 binoculars, I didn't see it through a small opening between trees at 6 deg elevation. *** 1997 Aug 1 Fri morning *** Times are AM EDT *** 21 7 458 1 50 36 .1 54 6 108 5.3 7 4 248 3 1050 449 30.9 Jay Respler -- Details of how to get on the Satellite Observer Mail List, satellite elements, prediction programs and other satellite information, at the Visual Satellite Observers Home Page: http://sat.physics.ox.ac.uk/sat/satintro.html -- JRespler@InJersey.com Satellite Tracker * Early Typewriter Collector Freehold, New Jersey