Kurt, Thanks for the clarification. I think I meant to say CURRENT tumblers :-) pj BTW I thought it was the venting of the excess propellent that produced the tumbling or is it a combination of propellent and explosive bolts?? -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Jonckheere <kurtjonckheere@hotmail.com> To: SeeSat-L@blackadder.lmsal.com <SeeSat-L@blackadder.lmsal.com> Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:54 AM Subject: RE : SL-16 > >hello all, > >Paul J Henney wrote : >>Other SL-16's have also been launched(zenit's) but are not known tumblers. > >SL-16 or Zenits are almost ALL known to be great bright easy-to-spot >tumblers. >The first great Zenit flasher was 85- 97 B = 16182, several have >followed... > >These second stages are seperated from the active payload by >explosive bolts. They are usually flashing quite fast after >lauch with less than one second. Because they are about >10 meters long, they become as bright as mag +2. > > > >Due to magnetic friction their rotation period slowly goes down, >so the time between two flashes become greater. For Zenits, >it usually take about five months for the period to become >about 3 times larger (in fact 2.71...=e times larger). This time >is known as the charateristic time of the rocket and depends >(mainly) on the rocket itself, its inclination and semi-major axis. > >This means that after 2-3 years they become steady. > >You can find more about flashing satellites, theory >and practice on the VSOHP : >http://www2.satellite.eu.org/satintro.html >especially at the "flashing satellites" part. > >In the PPAS - BWGS part you can find a link to the >PPAS database. There you can check that SL-16s were >nice tumblers. >In our program of flashing satellites you can also notice some >Zenits : >96- 51 B b 24298/Zenit >98- 43 G b 25400/ "Zenit" Resurs 1-x rocket >98- 45 B b 25407/ "Zenit" C 2360 rocket >99- 39 B b NEW, Okean-O Zenit, bright, fast flashing ! > >96- 51 B is nearly Steady right now, the two launched in >1998 have a period of 40 to 50 seconds. Only the last one >is still quite spectacular and will stay like that for two years >or so ! > >You can find the program overview at : >http://www2.satellite.eu.org/sat/program.rob >(it will be updated next week or so) > >Please don't hesitate to send your timings (with date -time >in UT - observer - ...) to ppas@lists.satellite.eu.org. > >Kurt Jonckheere (kjon@mail.dma.be), >observations collector for the Belgian Working Group Satellites. > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >