At 08:22 AM 12/16/96 -0800, Robert Shaeffer wrote: >The program will tell me what's visible IF I tell it in advance which >satellites I want to observe. ...or you can load up one of those large elsets (like Ted Molczan's 8100+) and get a list of just about everything that might come by. Then turn your printer on and go have dinner. It should be about finiched printing when you get back. ;-) > >I should thank that the program, given a correct elements file, could >tell me "what's up there" without any guidance beyond that of brightness >and elevation. Why is a separate satellite list REQUIRED? To avoid the pitfall mentioned above. > >What if there's a bright satellite that I don't know about, but might >be visible anyway? What if something new got launched, and I didn't >update my list? Short of the gift of omniscience, or a direct pipeline to NORAD, I can't help you there. You've reached the point of wanting egg in your beer. > >But people are ALREADY DOING this in constructing the elements list. >Now, given that we ALREADY HAVE the elements list, why is it necessary >for many people to duplicate the effort by maintaining an up-to-date >list of satellites? In my case, it's for the sher pleasure of it. I can't speak for anyone else, though. > >I have no problem with running a "short list" of satellites sometimes >(I do that, too) so long as you can also run a "complete list". See my first paragraph.... > >ONLY if you already put the satellite on your list of ones that you want to >observe. Again, see my first paragraph... > >So, you need to go into your word processor to duplicate the work that >Ted Molczan and others have already done in compiling the elements >list. Only to modify it for personal use. Not all of us are into instant gratification. We're willing to do a bit of work to get the results we want or need! ****************************************************************************** Don Horton N1ISB Amateur Radio: http://www.vgernet.net/dhorton/nobarc.html Weather : http://www.vgernet.net/dhorton/wx.html Satellites : http://www.vgernet.net/dhorton/birdhunt.html N1ISB/Rover : http://www.vgernet.net/dhorton/rover.html