Hello everyone- I rarely put out seesat-wide messages... but heres something odd I noticed on 12/22/96... 12/22/96 the 09:11 UTC pass... Boston, MA USA Lat 42.36830 N Lon-71.07330 W Alt +6m (ish!) While tracking Met 3-1 r (#16194 / 85100 B) the satellite was "missing", despite the elements being only 9 days old (still quite fresh, esp for a "dead" object). Our tracking telescopes were locked onto the correct coordinates, but the satellite was TWELVE+ seconds late! (12.2 secs late). In almost two years of tracking we have only seen this on active sats (ie Mir, STS, and "dark" sats). I haven't yet checked the element archives, but has anyone else noticed this? I have found the elements of 99%++ of all other sats to be quite excellent... this anomoly was unusual, to be sure. Thoughts: An event on the booster? Perhaps it is not a dead rocket? An impact? Of course it * could * be an error on my part, but 12 seconds of time is a HUGE chunk of sky for 3-1 r. Would like to hear your thoughts on this! Other notes: Just discovered it is possible to see Mir by moonlight alone. Last night's 22:37ish UTC pass was great, but after going into shadow, Mir remained visible for almost 2 minutes by the full moonlight. Mir looked faint blueish, smokey colored... visible in the 7" and 12" tracking scopes... Also: Does anyone have any info on Cos 1766? It appears physically larger than its 6m Molczan # would indicate. It was HUGE. Look fwd to hearing your thoughts on Met 3-1 r! -Ron Dantowitz Museum of Science, Boston