At 09:00 PM 12/28/96 -0800, you wrote: >What has SKYMAP got to do with altitude? Altitude is observable >directly. If an absurd result is attained in a computation then >one usually assumes the computation (or the observation) is in >error. Refraction will buy you, on the average, 0.5 degrees. Do >you have a true or lower horizon? If you have a true horizon you >cannot observe below an apparent altitude of zero. Leigh , Ron is 2073m above sea level. If he could see a sea level horizon(unlikely in Colorado) it would be depressed some 80 arcminutes by geometry alone. Tony Beresford