At 08:34 AM 12/29/96 -0800, you wrote: > I certainly don't know of any case in which a polar Vandenberg > launch near the northern winter solstice has been spotted by other > than a northern hemisphere observer the following Spring. Allen, this gives me a good chance to say to SeeSat_l at large that I have been following such an object since Dec 24, 1996. Having finished all the pre-christmas things I thought I would have a naked eye watch for the results of the Titan launch. So I set up a chair in a part of the backyard shaded from streetlighting and the Moon, and just looked with naked eye towards the South East and South parts of the sky. My patience was rewarded at about 1253UT as I observed this mag 3 satellite coming up from the South and passing overhead at 1254UT. It went into shadow at about 1255UT at 50 degrees elevation about 30 degrees W of North. It had to be a high object, as at the solar zenith angle of 116 degrees the shadow height is 712Km. Dec25 Night was cloudy , but it has been clear every night since, and I have observed it every night, its gets to mag 2.5-2.0 at overhead. I had no stopwatch with my dec 24, so timing approximate. Dec 24 overhead 1254, first seen 1253 Dec 26 12h 56m 17s ra 4h 21m dec -58.5 ( naked eye) dec 27 overhead at 1251UT [stopwatch trouble!!] dec 28 12h 46m 13.8s UT ra 6h 10.0m dec -55d 05min dec 29 1238UT RA 7h 08.0 min dec -49deg 12min [ stopwatch trouble!!] observations from Adelaide So. Australia Cospar site 8597 34.96S, 138.66E Tony Beresford