At 12:49 PM 12/30/96 +1030, I wrote: I should have added to my earlier report Thanks to Ted Molczan who provided an element set which covers my earliest observations quite well, and has been analysing my observations. These elements have a mean motion of about 15.05 revs/day and the usual eccentric orbit. Ted and I are not absolutely certain I am seeing the payload. I lean towards the view that I am. Havent seen any other object like a discarded titan upper stage. Observations from other observers in Southern hemisphere would help of course . For those not In Australia just observe the orbit plane in the south from 2100-2300 local time Ted has some puzzles analysing the obs which he has said in private e-mail he will mail to the group. Tony Beresford