Hello, First, let me introduce myself. I recently joined the SeeSat-L after becoming interested in observing satellites(can't remember how I got interested) about a month ago. I am a college student at Montgomery College in Rockville MD, USA. Recently on the list there have been a number of messages grumbling(?) about the lack of knowlege in the media(or their lack of fact checking) about the visiblility of satellites. So when the BBC-World news show had a story about the ISS I was not suprised when the host made a comment about how incredible it was that the ISS was so large that it would be visible. I was verry happy then when the guest corrected him and said that lots of satellites were visible, even ones much smaller than the ISS will be and is. So not everyone is ignorant of the visibility of satellites, and I must say I had no idea they were visible up untill a month or so ago. One more thing, I saw the ETS-7 two nights ago but I only saw one part of it, but acording to my predictions I should have seen both the target as well as the main part. I was wondering if one of the pieces had decayed or if they had been docked togather(are they still doing tests with it). Thanks, bye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hans Lawrenz kilgoretrout@hempseed.com 39.0203N 77.0959W