Re: Newcomer with unidentified obs from France

From: Jim (
Date: Sat Dec 23 2000 - 00:04:37 PST

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    Hi Patrick,
        Check out a pair of photos by Tristan Cools of the NOSS 2-2 trio at:
        In particular the shorter exposure that better shows their formation.
        -2.0 is pretty bright for these birds, I've observed them often and sometimes they are
    naked eye from my location, around mag 4.0.  I've also observed newly launched objects,
    they are often "in line" in the first dozen or so orbits.
    Jim Nix             |  Raleigh Springs #8936  35.2131N 89.9354W  90m |  Clear and Cold
    Patrick JL wrote:
    > Hi everyone !
    > I'm Patrick, 55, French Air Force Officer, former pilot and skipper. My
    > country observation place is Lat 48.067 N, Long 4.133 E, that is in Southern
    > Champagne, France. Have a 118mm telescope I use with my son Charles, 14, for
    > Moon and Jupiter satellites observations. I published my Echo balloon
    > satellite obs in 1960 in the monthly revue of Societe Astronomique de
    > France.
    > On August 24, 2000, we were my son and I plus a friend of him, observing
    > planets at approx 02:25 UTC.
    > Coming up from the South to near zenith, Charles first saw THREE satellite
    > like bright objects, flying as an isocele triangle, sharp angle forward.
    > Height of triangle : about 2 degrees. Sky visible inside the triangle with
    > binoculars. Constant lights mag -2. Disappeared N-NE behind trees.
    > Similar observation of three objects made by hundreds people in Paris
    > beginning (10 th ?) of August when watching outdoor movie inside City of
    > Science.
    > Read that ESA CLUSTER project to launch 4 satellites scheduled to fly
    > together during two years.
    > We saw "only" three spatial objects flying together. Were was the fourth ?
    > Has anybody an idea of what we saw that night ?
    > Thanks and rgds.
    > Patrick
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