Re: Newcomer with unidentified obs from France

From: Rick Baldridge (rickbaldridge@dellnet.com)
Date: Sat Dec 23 2000 - 11:14:36 PST

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    I have seen and videotaped these satellites many times flaring up to Zero
    to -2 magnitude for up to tens of seconds at a time, usually just before the
    go into the Earth's shadow (best phase angle).  Not that rare in my book.
    
    Happy New Year, (almost!)
    
    Rick Baldridge
    Campbell, CA
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Patrick Walsh" <patrickfwd@yahoo.com>
    To: "SeeSat-L" <seesat-l@blackadder.lmsal.com>
    Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 9:10 AM
    Subject: Re: Newcomer with unidentified obs from France
    
    
    > Hi Jim and others,
    >    I have never heard of these sats being brighter
    > than mag 4, and they are very popular sats to observe.
    >  How could they jump up to -2 just like that?  Even if
    > he saw some extremely rare flare (I've never heard of
    > any type of NOSS flare before), then it would not have
    > been a continuous -2.  What's the deal?
    >
    > Patrick Walsh
    >
    >
    > ----------
    > Jim Nix Wrote: (With Lots of Snips)
    > Hi Patrick,
    > In particular the shorter exposure that better shows
    > their formation.
    >     -2.0 is pretty bright for these birds, I've
    > observed them often and sometimes they are
    > visible
    > naked eye from my location, around mag 4.0.  I've also
    > observed newly launched objects,
    > however
    > they are often "in line" in the first dozen or so
    > orbits.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Jim Nix
    > -------
    > Patrick JL wrote:
    >
    > > On August 24, 2000, we were my son and I plus a
    > friend of him, observing
    > > planets at approx 02:25 UTC.
    > > Coming up from the South to near zenith, Charles
    > first saw THREE satellite
    > > like bright objects, flying as an isocele triangle,
    > sharp angle forward.
    > > Height of triangle : about 2 degrees. Sky visible
    > inside the triangle with
    > > binoculars. Constant lights mag -2. Disappeared N-NE
    > behind trees.
    > > Similar observation of three objects made by
    > hundreds people in Paris
    > > beginning (10 th ?) of August when watching outdoor
    > movie inside City of
    > > Science.
    >
    >
    >
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