I made some calculations. I divide into two groups all of known flashes of the "Phobos-Grunt" (PG) (I mean those flashes, that time we know) after the calculation of the mirrors in Heavensat (http://www.heavensat.ru/english/) : 1). Group M1: a). orientation angles of mirrors 51.3o 184.6o (S. Corbellini , 07/12/2011, Italy) b). orientation angles of mirrors 51.7o 162.4o (A. Repnj, 07/12/2011, Ukraine) c). orientation angles of mirrors 75.4o 171.4o (A. Repnoe , 12/05/2011, Ukraine) d). orientation angles of mirrors 63.2o 178.4o ("Le May", 02.12.2011, Russia) 2). Group M2: a). orientation angles of mirrors 29o 176.3o (A. Repnoe, 07/12/2011, Ukraine) b). orientation angles of mirrors 37.6o 179.6o ("Le May", 02.12.2011, Russia) c). orientation angles of mirrors 28.5o 180.6o (R. Kovalik, 23/11/2011, Italy) For both groups the second angle is almost identical, and the first angle for M1 less than 45 deg., for M2 - more than 45 deg. Next, I use the method of finding of "mirrors" orientation angles for several observations in "Haevensat" soft, described here: "Observation of satellite flares" (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sat.belastro.net%2Fglava5%2Fglava5.1.p2.a.php) (google translate of my web-site). For the M1 group I created a file with four observations: 02/12/2011 14:28:27,37872,16, .2,52.6167,39.6,150,0, 0255 0 05/12/2011 15:39:41,37872,2, .2,48.6657,33.1137,101,0, 255 255 0 12/07/2011 15:23:45,37872,13, .2,48.6657,33.1137,101,0, 255 255 0 12/07/2011 16:53:45,37872,31, .2,45.45,8.63,100,0, 0128255 We save it and load the Heavensat. Further, by adjusting the angle of deviation (preliminary angles I took from the estimates of the observed flares brightness and the distance to PG) we are making the crossing of the four rings at one point (see: http://www.astronomy.ru/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90182.0;attach=359919;image). Hence we get the first mirror: 37872 M1 71.4 170.6 35 For group M2 we can write 4 lines with observations: 23/11/2011 16:40:35,37872,2,.2,40.7569,14.4478,150,0, 255 0 0 02/12/2011 14:28:59,37872,31,.2,52.6167,39.6,150,0, 0 255 0 07/12/2011 15:24:45,37872,10,.2,48.6657,33.1137,101,0, 255 255 0 from which we can obtaine second "mirror": 37872 M2 20.5 174.5 35 Of course, the maximum deflection angle too big - 35o, but still... As a working test, we take a new message from Kevin Fetter - he recorded the a flash PG in Capricorn. His massage: http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Dec-2011/0095.html , video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSevz0OZjYs#. I calculated in Heavensat, when he could see the flash from our mirrors M1 and M2. I obtain (don't pay attention on brightness - I don't understand why so brightly obtained at present time): Calculation of the flares from 00:00:00 to 00:00:00 2011.12.08 2011.12.11 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Satellite______________|Int. desig..|NORAD No.|Mag.|Elev.|Azim.|Mirror|Angle|Time_______________| PHOBOS-GRUNT 2011-065A 37872 -4.9 13 242 M1 0.3 22:43:07 2011.12.08 PHOBOS-GRUNT 2011-065A 37872 3.4 13 198 M2 11.0 22:44:23 2011.12.08 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Let's look at the signature to the video - Fetter recorded the the flash at 22:43 UTC. It seems to be OK. But if you look at the map (see: http://www.astronomy.ru/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90182.0;attach=359923;image), it's clear to view that PG was flying between psi and omega of Capricorn in 22hh44m05s, i.e. one minute later than the Fetter wrote. Satellite's position on the picture - the flash maximum from the mirror M2. The time error (it can be seen on the video that the flash peak was during the PG flew between the stars) is about 20 seconds. Now about S. Corbellini observartion (here: http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Dec-2011/0077.html). Alex Repnoj (Ukraine) observed at 15h59m29s (02/12/2011) the PG flash, for which I got the mirror with angles of 276.2 deg. on 46.6 deg. S. Corbellini wrote on his massage (http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Dec-2011/0077.html) next angles for PG flash: "tilt of 63.8 +- 0.5 deg and angle of 245 +- 10 deg.". So, we can see, that these values are close to our -- possibly, it's M3 mirror... One another message of the observation. Tom Smith wrote (http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Dec-2011/0099.html) that there wasn't brightness variations, but "usual slight brightening near the zenith". I calculated possible flares using mirrors, as described above, - it could be a mirror M1 (see http://www.astronomy.ru/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90182.0;attach=359925;image - PG position during the flare). Vitaly. -- Best regards, Vitaly (Minsk, Belarus). _______________________________________________ Seesat-l mailing list http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l
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