using elset epoch 5 Jan 11hr 58min 51sec UTC +- 1 sec Jan 10 1997 RA : 07hr 59' Dec: -24deg 31' FROM: 148.0400 E 38.2744 S Note these coords are not my regular obs site (local astromomy club observing site) Mag <4 brightening just before shadow entry to around 2... elset almost spot on for pos and time.... Also saw terrific pass from NOSS 2-2 trio mag 2-3 with the two leading sats passing either side of Sirius (good guide star !). I think I finally managed to impress some of the hard bitten deep sky observers :-) Ian Ian & Shari Porter Rye, Victoria, Australia http://pac.com.au/~sharian/ 144.8136 E 38.3744 S 5m AMSL