My apologies to those of you who are familiar with the following information which I just discovered on UseNet. . Check out http://www.cts.com/browse/garym/elements It has all the standard TLE and vector source links that I am familiar with and one I was not aware of, ftp.ucsd.edu. It does not, of course, use OIG Goddard. An interesting feature is that this company (Thomas Software Co.?) provides the latest Shuttle TLEs via a listserver. I realize part of the fun is trying to get the latest elements available, but for those of you who are too busy at work to do a lot of searching, this feature may be helpful. It appears to be only limited to the Shuttle. There is also a related ftp site which I have not checked out yet, ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/garym/elements.htm I hope this info is useful to some of you.