96-38A passed 1 deg from alpha Cep at July 08 21:10:10.5 with mag 2. 96-38B was between delta and zeta Sge (0.4 from delta) at July 8 22:26:30.6 with mag 0, that is RA 19:48.0 D +18.78 +/- 0.05 deg 2000.0 both were on time with these elsets: 96038A 1 96038U 96 38 A 96190.00000000 .00029250 00000-0 99618-4 0 05 2 96038 54.9908 163.4026 0020229 331.5871 115.1135 15.88773242 02 96038A r 1 96039U 96 38 B 96190.00000000 .00044416 00000-0 12112-3 0 00 2 96039 55.0162 163.2023 0020763 236.3645 264.6189 15.93045525 07 96-38A not seen at 22:44 as my sky was 90% overcast. 96-38A Pierre got two good points at 22:43 Rainer Kracht 1996 July 08 R.Kracht@t-online.de +9.6626E, +53.7695N, 9m