Tried to see the shuttle launch via the web but with no luck, all servers too busy. I thought the shuttle would be too low to see so I did not bother to look for it. Instead I waited for Iridium 20 to flash by I saw 6 flashes at zenith and 2 flashes as it went south of me. Glad I stayed out the shuttle went by at aprox 23:27 BST with the tank slightly to the north with an orange glow. The shuttle was aprox -1 max with the tank about 2. I was really impressed. I can't wait for ISS now sp the shuttle passes my latitude again. Regards Steve Daniels I.T. Technician 50.245N 3.34W 210ft