At 20:51 6/06/98 EDT, Aliendish@aol.com wrote: >Is there a site where i can download a tle that will have every visible flare >in it for my location? and not just the iridium sats? No there isnt. For satellites other than the iridiums the orientation is mostly unknown , or unpredictable in advance (GRO,Hubble) Tony Beresford