Re:New Subscriber--Introduction /Question

Chris Peat (grc@spica.usno.navy.mil)
Mon, 08 Jun 98 11:45:34 -0500

Andy:

I'd betcha dollars to donuts that you saw Iridium 20, which is one of the
"Iridia" which is suffering attitude control problems.  It would have followed
Ir 17 by a few seconds, along a virtually identical path.

At the same time last night we had a pass of the docked Mir/Shuttle combo, a bit
over 20 degrees in the northeast.  I was "clouded out" for the Iridium flare(s),
but had a great view of the Mir flyby (which I caught on video as it passed by
Altair).

Here are a few other potential candidates, generated with Mike McCants'
excellent QUICKSAT program:


  38.922  77.072  200.   USNO, Washington, DC     2000  6.0 35 F F T T T
 
***  1998 June  7  Sun evening  *** Times are PM EDT  ***  2128  445
 
 H  M  S  Tim Al Azi C Dir  Mag Dys F  Hgt Shd  Rng  EW Phs  R A   Dec

24870 Iridium 17                  17      
10 20  1   .0 38  50    66 21.2   4 1  487 307  734 1.0  79 1918  51.1
10 20 33   .0 41  64    76 20.9   4 1  487 269  690 1.0  68 1839  42.2
10 21  4   .0 43  80 C  88 20.7   4 2  487 226  672 1.0  56 18 8  31.7
10 21 36   .0 42  97   100 20.6   4 2  487 178  681 1.0  44 1745  20.6
10 22  7   .0 39 112   111 20.6   4 2  487 126  716 1.0  33 1726   9.8
 
24871 Iridium 20                  13      
10 20  7   .0 38  50    66 21.2   4 1  483 303  729 1.0  79 1918  51.0
10 20 39   .0 41  64    76 20.9   4 1  483 265  685 1.0  68 1838  42.2
10 21 10   .0 43  80 C  88 20.7   4 1  484 222  667 1.0  56 18 8  31.7
10 21 41   .0 42  97   100 20.6   4 2  484 175  676 1.0  44 1744  20.5
10 22 12   .0 39 112   111 20.6   4 2  484 124  711 1.0  33 1726   9.8
 
11586 Cosmos 1141 Rk 7.4 2.4     8.7 3.4   5.0 
10 22 37   .0 46 175   349  5.9   4 3  611 264  804 1.2  40 1434  -5.3
10 23 17   .0 57 170   345  5.6   4 3  611 312  707 1.3  45 1441   6.4
10 23 57   .0 71 158   333  5.4   4 3  612 356  642 1.4  54 1451  20.7
10 24 37   .0 81  98 C 273  5.5   4 3  612 396  618 1.4  66 15 5  37.0
10 25 18   .0 72  33   209  5.7   4 3  613 434  640 1.3  78 1528  53.1
 
11630 Cosmos 1145 Rk 3.8 2.6     6.2 4.0   3.5 
10 23 57   .0 45 137   304  3.1   4 7  342  33  465 1.7  27 1617   2.4
10 24 19   .0 51 120   291  3.0   4 7  341  60  430 1.7  36 1638  13.5
10 24 41   .0 54  99 C 272  3.0   4 7  341  85  415 1.7  48 17 4  25.7
10 25  2   .0 52  76   253  3.2   4 7  341 109  423 1.7  60 1739  37.5
10 25 24   .0 47  58   239  3.5   4 7  340 132  453 1.6  72 1822  47.6
10 25 46   .0 40  46   229  3.9   4 7  340 154  500 1.4  82 1913  54.9

BTW, I have a home page dedicated to bright satellites visible over the DC Matro
area, including Iridium flashes.  The URL is:

http://www.usno.navy.mil/pao/BRIGHTSAT.html

I update it every Monday morning, and more often when the Shuttle is visible (as
it will be this week...)

Cheers,
Geoff

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Subject:    New Subscriber--Introduction /Question 
Author: <SeeSat-L@cds.plasma.mpe-garching.mpg.de>
Date:       08-Jun-98 11:13 AM

Hi. I am new to the list. My name is Andy Porth age 30, married with 1
daughter age 2 and another kid on the way. I live in the suburbs outside
Washington DC. 
 I have been interested in Astronomy and especially space exploration for
some time, but only recently have figured out some of the major
constellations. In other words, I am a complete novice. Seeing MIR
numerous times and other satellites in the past got me really interested
in satellite observation.  Naturally, the Iridium flares accelerated this
interest. Since I live in very light polluted area, I can only see Mir
and Iridium.

Now my question. ( I don't know if this has been asked because I only
have web access at work, and will not be able to get to it for awhile.)

At approximately 0220 UT June 8, I saw Iridium 17 flare to -6 near Vega.
About 1 or 2 minutes later I saw an object in the same area blinking on
and off. Naturally,  I assumed it to be an airplane.  However, it
disappeared quickly  just like satellites do. What could that have been?

Don't fry the novice. I will probably be a reader only after this.
Curiosity overwhelmed.
Andy Porth
38.50N 77.0828W
tporth@juno.com

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