In a message dated 6/17/98 9:43:03 AM, you wrote: <<>I have been looking for a sat tracking program that will show a real time >sky-trace of one or a list of satellites. I am trying out SatSpy 2.5, >which has a multiple sky trace feature, but it is for a pre-determined >time span and not real-time tracking. > >I would appreciate any suggestions.>> I'd agree with the advice re SkyChart 2000 v 2.7, and Starry Night. I think the freeware planetarium software Home Planet can also approximate a real time display, but just 1 sat at a time. SkyChart 2000 readily imports large N2L files, so viewing a constellation such as GPS, Iridium, NOAA, etc is easy. It gives decent magnitude estimates, excluding glint/flare phenomena. But there is no way to delete them once saved to the database, so think twice before saving your database with thousands of elsets when you quit the program. It is not difficult to import them for each run. For speed, it uses an SGP model, which is a bit less accurate than SGP4 used in most sat tracking software. The Earth's disk is drawn over satellite trails, so viewing the Mir orbit from above won't work well. Animation controls are very flexible. Trails do not indicate shadow passage like in SatSpy, you have to watch the magnitude in an info window. Starry Night requires you to paste elements one line at a time, so isn't practical for large numbers of satellites. Magnitudes need fiddling to get them faint enough. Leigh Palmer, didn't you mention difficulty getting sats in shadow to indicate properly? Animation works well, put in 0.0 for the step time to get it to run as fast as possible on your machine. You can save a Quicktime movie, which is nice for orbit demonstrations. Jim Cook identified a problem with the occasional elsets containing a negative drag term; fresh elements work well if you delete the minus sign. Starry Night is prettier, works fine if you have a few sats to watch. If you want to animate dozens of sats, I'd go with SkyChart 2000. Dan djlaszlo@aol.com