Well, I just had a treat here in Northport (40.9037N 73.345W 0ish). A few minutes ago, Starshine, Discovery, and ISS appeared overhead, in that order. I apologize for not having anough of an astronomical background to give a really accurate report, but Starshine did flare to be brighter than the shuttle, for a brief period of time. It then dimmed, but still seemed to be visible. I only caught one flare, but the path was blocked by trees for much of it's arc across the sky. This disco ball in space should be fun to watch. I apologize for any incoherency due to lack of sleep/experience. - Tom - http://onegeek.org/~tom/ ----------------- Lilug Veep - Using Linux The Computer is your friend. (My public key is at http://www.onegeek.org/~tom/gpg.html)