From: Thomas Dorman (
Date: Fri Jun 10 2005 - 07:48:55 EDT

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    As some of you know I have been observing and
    researching PAGEOS 1.Let me take the chance at this
    time to thank all who reply to my postings.
    I have now received e-mail to some questions I sent to
    NASA's orbital debris office and Space-Track .These
    agencies know little more,if not less than what I
    received from this e-mail group.
    Space-Track stated that the cross tagging or miss
    tagging of PAGEOS 1 was unlikely but they could not
    totally rule it out of the question.
    Space-Track forwarded my e-mail to the Air Force but I
    did not receive a reply.
    So being me,I call them up and asked my questions
    about the miss tagging, the break up in 1975 and
    1976.Also I asked about the loss of tracking in the
    late 1970's and recovery in the early 1980's.
    Let me tell you guys that this e-mail group (SATOBS)
    has more information and knowledge about satellite
    history than you can find in a room full of space
    command,space-track or NORAD people.
    It seems to me that after PAGEOS 1 broke up in 1975
    almost all history of the satellite has been forgotten
    or lost by these agencies.
     So I am back to the group to ask for help.Can anyone 
    tell me where to look for the history of this
    satellite after the 1975 break up?  
     I finished a timing run on PAGEOS 1 just about three
    minutes before local mid-night here. Had great
    conditions for observing.I could see stars to
    theoretical limits of my 80mm scope.
    PAGEOS 1 was running 5 seconds earlier than the latest
    prediction from Heaven-Above,+/- .5 seconds of timing
    error at a magnitude of about +9.0. I also track it as
    it moved to the north and observed a short flare of
    about magnitude +8.5.It still seems to me to slightly
    vary in brightness in short time spanneds as it moved
    along its track.
    The reason for the timing was for a fellow member of
    my astronomy who is going to try and image the main
    remains of PAGEOS 1.If he has any luck on PAGEOS 1 he
    is going to try for the secondary remains.
    Can anyone tell me if we get some fair high resolution
    image of the remains is it possible to figure out from
    the images what percentage of the balloon is still in
    orbit? And can you point us to where we can find the
    formulas to work this out from the images?
    Thomas Dorman
    Horizon City,Texas  
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