>The logical assumption would be that they were the oldest ones, USA 86 or >Lacrosse 2. But USA 116 seem to have dropped out of sight. > Since #23728 95 66 A is in a midnight orbit, it has not been visible in the northern hemisphere, but I found recently it has already reached the 20 degree elevation for me. However, I have not had a clear night since then. Here is a search orbit, generated by Vec2TLE, assuming reboost end of November, with time separation from USA 129 near upper operational limit, decreasing slowly since then (now 227 min.). USA 116 search 1 23728U 95066A 99044.44000000 .00025000 00000-0 32931-3 0 25 2 23728 97.9280 159.2889 0507249 348.2719 10.7023 14.78600000 23107 Subtract (add?) multiples of 0.01 to 99044.44 to get alternative orbits. -- bjorn@tt-tech.se (office) b_gimle@algonet.se (home) -- -- 59.298 N, 18.104 E, 55 m http://www.algonet.se/~b_gimle -- -- SeeSat-L / Visual Satellite Observer Home Page found at -- -- http://www.satellite.eu.org/satintro.html --