In a message dated 3/17/99 7:05:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, ronlee@pcisys.net writes: << All steady brightness at about 5th magnitude at a range of 1746 km and Skymap phase angle of 115. I had the default magnitude setting at 4.3 which gave a predicted magnitude of 5.1. Close enough for me. >> Speaking of Skymap and magnitudes, I consistently get many more sat predictions of mag. 3.0 or brighter in a given evening with Quicksat than I do with Skymap. I usually use the molczan elements file and select the Skymap option to use magnitudes in the ephemeris file if present (they ARE present in the molczan file right???). My default magnitude setting I just leave at 6.0. If I choose to use the satmag.dat file for standard magnitudes I still get the same skimpy number of predictions. What gives? Is the quicksat.mag file just overly generous when it comes to standard magnitudes? Or perhaps skymap's satmag.dat file is missing many satelites, which causes the 6.0 default magnitude to be used when the sat is really brighter? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quinn McCleery Raleigh, NC