RE: Seesat-l Digest, Vol 1, Issue 19

From: fred nelson <fred_nelson57_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 20:57:59 -0400
Can Someone please update the ERS-20 Tle's like was done a few years back !

Thank You,

Fred
 

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> 1. NRO declassifies and releases another tranche of
> HEXAGON/GAMBIT docs (Mark Robinson)
> 2. Re: NRO declassifies and releases another tranche of
> HEXAGON/GAMBIT docs (Allen Thomson)
> 3. CB Obs March 22/23, 2014: Video (C. Bassa)
> 4. LB obs 2014 Mar 22 evening (Leo Barhorst)
> 5. CB Obs March 23, 2014: Photographic (C. Bassa)
> 6. LB Obs Mar 22 evening (Leo Barhorst)
> 7. 2014MAR22.OBS (Russell Eberst)
> 8. LB Obs 2014 Mar 23 morning (Leo Barhorst)
> 9. NROL-67 search elements (Ted Molczan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 14:20:39 +1300
> From: Mark Robinson <mark_at_zl2tod.net>
> To: seesat-l_at_satobs.org
> Subject: NRO declassifies and releases another tranche of
> HEXAGON/GAMBIT docs
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> > http://www.nro.gov/foia/declass/GAMBIT%20Dual%20Mode.html
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> > http://cryptome.org/2014/03/nro-spy-sat-history.htm
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:43:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Allen Thomson <thomsona_at_flash.net>
> To: Mark Robinson <mark_at_zl2tod.net>, "seesat-l_at_satobs.org"
> <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>
> Subject: Re: NRO declassifies and releases another tranche of
> HEXAGON/GAMBIT docs
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> 
> Very interesting, I've not yet read it all.
> 
> But the dual-mode idea does make sense in terms of what the KH-11 et seq. have been doing for a long time.? Go low to get high resolution at perigee for point targets, dwell a while at apogee for area survey with lower resolution and more coverage.? Some analysis of actual orbits might provide more insight. 
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> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:32:27 +0100
> From: "C. Bassa" <cgbsat_at_gmail.com>
> To: Seesat-L <SeeSat-L_at_satobs.org>
> Subject: CB Obs March 22/23, 2014: Video
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> Observations obtained with the fixed setup during the night of March
> 22/23, 2014. Excellent conditions throughout.
> 
> 07816 75 043A 4171 E 20140323023509875 17 25 2317978+562425 37 I
> 07816 75 043A 4171 E 20140323023519865 17 25 2336890+570102 37 I
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042027350 17 25 0130622+574659 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042029110 17 25 0124521+571822 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042031089 17 25 0117705+564497 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042032958 17 25 0111440+561223 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042034670 17 25 0105894+554129 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042036150 17 25 0101220+551375 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042037410 17 25 0057341+544978 37 S
> 10529 77 112D 4171 E 20140323042038230 17 25 0055037+543405 37 S
> 13172 82 041C 4171 E 20140322190043749 17 25 1531791+541921 37 S
> 13172 82 041C 4171 E 20140322190053729 17 25 1553830+545754 37 S
> 13874 83 008H 4171 E 20140323020549849 17 25 2247039+554155 37 S
> 14690 84 012A 4171 E 20140322212633736 17 25 1814142+580226 37 S
> 14690 84 012A 4171 E 20140322212643736 17 25 1756958+555974 37 I
> 16631 86 014H 4171 E 20140322204653713 17 25 1756996+562423 37 S
> 16631 86 014H 4171 E 20140322204658734 17 25 1750755+553665 37 S
> 20642 90 050E 4171 E 20140322183353757 17 25 1512914+585665 37 S
> 20642 90 050E 4171 E 20140322183403745 17 25 1502211+571357 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4171 E 20140322182913745 17 25 1527050+600659 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4171 E 20140322182923745 17 25 1514673+582604 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4171 E 20140322182933745 17 25 1503851+564395 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4171 E 20140322182938765 17 25 1459011+555237 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184152133 17 25 1532722+602670 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184153433 17 25 1528145+594262 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184154842 17 25 1523472+585470 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184156133 17 25 1519430+581076 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184157302 17 25 1515958+573101 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184158202 17 25 1513394+570047 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184159260 17 25 1510661+562457 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184200229 17 25 1508127+555191 37 S
> 22519 92 086C 4171 E 20140322184200891 17 25 1506458+552984 37 S
> 23605 95 033A 4171 E 20140323033948052 17 25 0023373+540866 37 I
> 23605 95 033A 4171 E 20140323033953092 17 25 0015552+543366 37 I
> 24680 96 072A 4171 E 20140322193327415 17 25 1608347+533471 37 S
> 24680 96 072A 4171 E 20140322193328255 17 25 1611060+534144 37 S
> 24680 96 072A 4171 E 20140322193329333 17 25 1614683+534970 37 S
> 24680 96 072A 4171 E 20140322193330693 17 25 1619042+535934 37 S
> 24680 96 072A 4171 E 20140322193331795 17 25 1622544+540669 37 S
> 26905 01 040A 4171 E 20140323030839858 17 25 2358580+590554 37 S
> 26905 01 040A 4171 E 20140323030849860 17 25 2355065+572538 37 S
> 26905 01 040A 4171 E 20140323030859859 17 25 2352057+554865 37 S
> 26905 01 040A 4171 E 20140323030909859 17 25 2349443+541521 37 S
> 26905 01 040A 4171 E 20140323030919859 17 25 2347165+524507 37 S
> 26906 01 040B 4171 E 20140323000659858 17 25 2101770+603035 37 I
> 26906 01 040B 4171 E 20140323000709878 17 25 2057284+585048 37 I
> 26906 01 040B 4171 E 20140323000719858 17 25 2053364+571304 37 I
> 26906 01 040B 4171 E 20140323000729857 17 25 2049961+553876 37 I
> 26906 01 040B 4171 E 20140323000739859 17 25 2047044+540746 37 I
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323023139868 17 25 2301213+581431 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323023149876 17 25 2300676+563449 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323023159868 17 25 2300283+545843 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323042248048 17 25 0114242+592714 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323042253068 17 25 0110194+583873 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323042303067 17 25 0102672+570171 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323042313087 17 25 0056043+552502 37 S
> 26907 01 040C 4171 E 20140323042313087 17 25 0056062+552495 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322211313741 17 25 1736364+573948 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322211323742 17 25 1736611+560092 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322230414857 17 25 2001121+595192 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322230419879 17 25 1956974+590375 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322230429878 17 25 1949304+572695 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322230439877 17 25 1942508+555022 37 S
> 28095 03 054A 4171 E 20140322230449878 17 25 1936534+541487 37 S
> 28096 03 054B 4171 E 20140323022739888 17 25 2247191+563390 37 S
> 28097 03 054C 4171 E 20140322224143730 17 25 1944816+595292 37 S
> 28097 03 054C 4171 E 20140322224153730 17 25 1937624+581548 37 S
> 28097 03 054C 4171 E 20140322224203730 17 25 1931310+563925 37 S
> 28097 03 054C 4171 E 20140322224213741 17 25 1925742+550493 37 S
> 28097 03 054C 4171 E 20140322224223721 17 25 1920869+533252 37 S
> 28538 05 004B 4171 E 20140322185133738 17 25 1537680+592952 37 I
> 28538 05 004B 4171 E 20140322185143738 17 25 1533780+575719 37 I
> 28538 05 004B 4171 E 20140322185153749 17 25 1530289+562701 37 I
> 28538 05 004B 4171 E 20140322185203738 17 25 1527266+545860 37 I
> 28538 05 004B 4171 E 20140322185208758 17 25 1525975+541497 37 I
> 31702 07 027B 4171 E 20140322221843741 17 25 1923244+572991 37 I
> 31702 07 027B 4171 E 20140322221853721 17 25 1910931+554428 37 I
> 31702 07 027B 4171 E 20140322221903729 17 25 1900019+535642 37 I
> 33244 08 036A 4171 E 20140322192922874 17 25 1601482+545638 37 S
> 33244 08 036A 4171 E 20140322192926416 17 25 1611471+551826 37 S
> 33244 08 036A 4171 E 20140322192930856 17 25 1624062+554026 37 S
> 33244 08 036A 4171 E 20140322192935216 17 25 1636063+555624 37 S
> 37229 10 062H 4171 E 20140322185603738 17 25 1603291+571890 37 S
> 37229 10 062H 4171 E 20140322185623729 17 25 1544018+552557 37 I
> 37386 11 014A 4171 E 20140323020339861 17 25 2305951+592867 37 S
> 37386 11 014A 4171 E 20140323020349870 17 25 2259792+574903 37 S
> 37386 11 014A 4171 E 20140323020359851 17 25 2254436+561095 37 S
> 37386 11 014A 4171 E 20140323020409871 17 25 2249749+543541 37 S
> 37386 11 014A 4171 E 20140323020419850 17 25 2245653+530179 37 S
> 37391 11 014B 4171 E 20140323020334830 17 25 2305116+591887 37 S
> 37391 11 014B 4171 E 20140323020339861 17 25 2302184+582911 37 S
> 37391 11 014B 4171 E 20140323020349870 17 25 2256441+565029 37 S
> 37391 11 014B 4171 E 20140323020359851 17 25 2251511+551382 37 S
> 37391 11 014B 4171 E 20140323020409871 17 25 2247029+533898 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322200743721 17 25 1636061+575920 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322200753728 17 25 1635628+561983 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322200803728 17 25 1635272+544381 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322215843746 17 25 1855051+595667 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322215853759 17 25 1846406+581671 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322215903739 17 25 1838864+563620 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4171 E 20140322215913746 17 25 1832169+545658 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322200738709 17 25 1636462+574859 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322200743721 17 25 1636271+565940 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322200753728 17 25 1635778+552151 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322215833757 17 25 1858490+603543 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322215843746 17 25 1849356+585543 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322215853759 17 25 1841324+571511 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322215903739 17 25 1834290+553497 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4171 E 20140322215908766 17 25 1831145+544496 37 S
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Setup: Watec 902H2 video, 50mm F/1.8, NTP, Fixed setup
> IOD format: http://www.satobs.org/position/IODformat.html
> COSPAR 4171: 52.8344N, 6.3785E, 10m (WGS84)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> NOTES:
> ------
> 1) USA 89 r [22519/92086C] seen again. The observations from this
> night and the previous night constrain the orbit to:
> USA 89 r
> 1 22519U 92086C 14080.76608796 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 09
> 2 22519 56.9135 16.3905 3180515 99.6330 355.1523 8.88854089 09
> # 20140321.77-20140322.78, 14 measurements, 0.007 deg rms
> 2) The object labelled as NOSS 2 (D) [10529/77112D] could also NOSS 2
> (E) [10544/77112E], but because the latter has a more recent orbit
> I'm favouring NOSS 2 (D).
> 
> Regards,
> Cees
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:51:18 +0100
> From: Leo Barhorst <leobarhorst_at_gmail.com>
> To: seesat-l_at_satobs.org
> Subject: LB obs 2014 Mar 22 evening
> Message-ID:
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> 28910 05 048C 4172 G 20140322190804790 17 25 0020507+553483 37 R
> 28910 05 048C 4172 G 20140322190809718 17 25 0026150+553066 37 R
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194024446 17 25 2125106+681583 37 S note
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194031518 17 25 2119427+692715 37 S
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194034167 17 25 2112475+704655 37 S
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194038159 17 25 2106985+713981 37 S
> 38737 12 041E 4172 G 20140322194331404 17 25 2134283+681013 37 S
> 38737 12 041E 4172 G 20140322194342989 17 25 2137232+692200 37 S
> 38737 12 041E 4172 G 20140322194346811 17 25 2140952+703749 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322194521407 17 25 2141608+713523 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322194531413 17 25 2137775+694427 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322194541404 17 25 2134759+675816 37 S
> 00815 64 031C 4172 G 20140322195601505 17 25 2313956+673496 37 S
> 00815 64 031C 4172 G 20140322195611489 17 25 2302575+654459 37 S
> 04322 70 008C 4172 G 20140322195843222 17 25 2326667+670130 37 S
> 04322 70 008C 4172 G 20140322195851462 17 25 2320049+655098 37 S
> 04322 70 008C 4172 G 20140322195901510 17 25 2314142+644215 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203920212 17 25 0257906+414664 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203925243 17 25 0255423+410870 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203935233 17 25 0250500+395210 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203940253 17 25 0248313+391528 37 S
> 10536 77 122A 4172 G 20140322204254771 17 25 0322938+414645 37 F
> 11389 79 050A 4172 G 20140322204655239 17 25 0147680+475002 37 R
> 11389 79 050A 4172 G 20140322204705248 17 25 0134977+475279 37 R
> 39475 13 072P 4172 G 20140322204740222 17 25 0149892+493021 37 F
> 39475 13 072P 4172 G 20140322204745251 17 25 0156403+474290 37 F
> 39475 13 072P 4172 G 20140322204750262 17 25 0202674+455279 37 F
> 37954 11 075A 4172 G 20140322211336325 17 25 2133041+614736 37 S
> 37954 11 075A 4172 G 20140322211345333 17 25 2141482+600038 37 S
> 37954 11 075A 4172 G 20140322211352646 17 25 2147301+583809 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322212055263 17 25 0301199+333161 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322212105242 17 25 0253006+341949 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322212115250 17 25 0244717+350488 37 S
> 38863 12 056D 4172 G 20140322212447146 17 25 2219435+585089 37 S
> 38863 12 056D 4172 G 20140322212455143 17 25 2223486+571298 37 S
> 38863 12 056D 4172 G 20140322212502061 17 25 2225903+560903 37 S
> 24279 96 046C 4172 G 20140322214205288 17 25 0030602+600549 37 S
> 24279 96 046C 4172 G 20140322214215209 17 25 0023981+584393 37 S
> 99998 14 581B 4172 G 20140322215044491 17 25 0020790+583410 37 S note
> 99998 14 581B 4172 G 20140322215044651 17 25 0020685+581079 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215455236 17 25 0201105+600356 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4172 G 20140322215505245 17 25 0157840+604421 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215505245 17 25 0150482+614226 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4172 G 20140322215515235 17 25 0146441+622372 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215515235 17 25 0138195+631973 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215520264 17 25 0131693+640679 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4172 G 20140322215525244 17 25 0133484+635949 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220105212 17 25 0001548+533446 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220115209 17 25 2355050+544407 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220125221 17 25 2348236+555212 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220135252 17 25 2340400+570308 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220145213 17 25 2331679+581196 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220635218 17 25 0327328+372919 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220645219 17 25 0333398+380268 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220655258 17 25 0340131+383499 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220705218 17 25 0346970+390820 37 S
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220805218 17 25 0346969+375074 37 S note
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220815219 17 25 0338256+382996 37 S
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220825221 17 25 0329469+390491 37 S
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220835254 17 25 0320878+393589 37 S
> 20642 90 050E 4172 G 20140322221115224 17 25 0341931+375523 37 S
> 20642 90 050E 4172 G 20140322221125221 17 25 0348526+382588 37 S
> 31702 07 027B 4172 G 20140322221545229 17 25 0109392+574291 37 R
> 31702 07 027B 4172 G 20140322221555229 17 25 0055561+591172 37 R
> 31702 07 027B 4172 G 20140322221605230 17 25 0040176+603592 37 R
> 22565 93 016A 4172 G 20140322222945226 17 25 0102529+582681 37 S
> 22565 93 016A 4172 G 20140322222959341 17 25 0059822+600467 37 S
> 22565 93 016A 4172 G 20140322223008903 17 25 0056957+614641 37 S
> 
> 
> 
> Notes:
> 99999
> 
> 99998 14 581B a short flash in one image
> 
> 39232 13 043A large residuals
> 
> *************************************************************
> Setup: WATEC 120N, Celestron Nexstar mount, NTP
> Observations made and reduced with Sattools
> Cospar 4172 ALMERE 52.3713 N 5.2580 E -3ASL
> Best regards Leo Barhorst
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:55:18 +0100
> From: "C. Bassa" <cgbsat_at_gmail.com>
> To: Seesat-L <SeeSat-L_at_satobs.org>
> Subject: CB Obs March 23, 2014: Photographic
> Message-ID:
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> Photographic observations obtained on the morning of March 23rd, 2014.
> 
> 07816 75 043A 4171 G 20140323041159346 27 25 1501103+061170 17 S
> 07816 75 043A 4171 G 20140323041206307 27 25 1457113+074403 17 S
> 13874 83 008H 4171 G 20140323035940367 27 25 1903547-041368 17 S
> 13874 83 008H 4171 G 20140323035947242 27 25 1904954-045426 17 S
> 13874 83 008H 4171 G 20140323035957302 27 25 1907224-055978 17 S
> 13874 83 008H 4171 G 20140323040003226 27 25 1908516-063684 17 S
> 13874 83 008H 4171 G 20140323040013286 27 25 1910631-073728 17 S
> 23233 94 057A 4171 G 20140323041304319 27 25 1533791+155470 17 S
> 23233 94 057A 4171 G 20140323041309293 27 25 1532828+135673 17 S
> 23233 94 057A 4171 G 20140323041319353 27 25 1531320+105003 17 S
> 23233 94 057A 4171 G 20140323041326227 27 25 1530488+090569 17 S
> 23233 94 057A 4171 G 20140323041336287 27 25 1529169+062024 17 S
> 23233 94 057A 4171 G 20140323041342298 27 25 1528420+044656 17 S
> 28384 04 034A 4171 G 20140323034348307 27 25 1629514+602935 17 S
> 28384 04 034A 4171 G 20140323034404291 27 25 1629887+602784 17 S
> 28384 04 034A 4171 G 20140323034423299 27 25 1630204+602650 17 S
> 28384 04 034A 4171 G 20140323034439283 27 25 1630545+602496 17 S
> 28384 04 034A 4171 G 20140323034456304 27 25 1630846+602361 17 S
> 29249 06 027A 4171 G 20140323040321292 27 25 1621253-085375 17 S
> 29249 06 027A 4171 G 20140323040327302 27 25 1621461-090379 17 S
> 29249 06 027A 4171 G 20140323040337362 27 25 1621801-091853 17 S
> 29249 06 027A 4171 G 20140323040344237 27 25 1622039-092867 17 S
> 29249 06 027A 4171 G 20140323040354297 27 25 1622383-094217 17 S
> 31701 07 027A 4171 G 20140323041304319 27 25 1521539+043987 17 S
> 31701 07 027A 4171 G 20140323041309293 27 25 1524582+054263 17 S
> 31701 07 027A 4171 G 20140323041319353 27 25 1529911+073137 17 S
> 31701 07 027A 4171 G 20140323041326227 27 25 1533263+083922 17 S
> 31708 07 027C 4171 G 20140323041309293 27 25 1523082+042546 17 S
> 31708 07 027C 4171 G 20140323041319353 27 25 1528224+061052 17 S
> 31708 07 027C 4171 G 20140323041326227 27 25 1531461+071592 17 S
> 32706 08 010A 4171 G 20140323040604310 27 25 1400276+633618 17 S
> 32706 08 010A 4171 G 20140323040619257 27 25 1400588+633660 17 S
> 32706 08 010A 4171 G 20140323040637315 27 25 1400903+633696 17 S
> 32706 08 010A 4171 G 20140323040652262 27 25 1401198+633742 17 S
> 32706 08 010A 4171 G 20140323040709283 27 25 1401504+633772 17 S
> 90083 09 526A 4171 G 20140323034348307 27 25 1602977+645697 17 S
> 90083 09 526A 4171 G 20140323034404291 27 25 1603353+645614 17 S
> 90083 09 526A 4171 G 20140323034423299 27 25 1603742+645541 17 S
> 90083 09 526A 4171 G 20140323034439283 27 25 1604108+645467 17 S
> 90083 09 526A 4171 G 20140323034456304 27 25 1604471+645405 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032337324 27 25 2048710+170404 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032353308 27 25 2049125+170261 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032408256 27 25 2049527+170102 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032425276 27 25 2049939+165951 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032441260 27 25 2050340+165813 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032711337 27 25 2054320+164320 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032727321 27 25 2054741+164153 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032744256 27 25 2055177+163991 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032759289 27 25 2055589+163840 17 S
> 90087 11 674A 4171 G 20140323032816310 27 25 2056031+163668 17 S
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Setup: EOS70D, 85mm F/1.4, 10s @ 800ISO, NexStar mount, NTP timing
> IOD format: http://www.satobs.org/position/IODformat.html
> COSPAR 4171: 52.8344N, 6.3785E, 10m (WGS84)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Regards,
> Cees
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:56:11 +0100
> From: Leo Barhorst <leobarhorst_at_gmail.com>
> To: seesat-l_at_satobs.org
> Subject: LB Obs Mar 22 evening
> Message-ID:
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> Re-sending, because I hit the wrong button before adding the note on 99999.
> 
> A clear evening with occasionally some clouds.
> 
> 28910 05 048C 4172 G 20140322190804790 17 25 0020507+553483 37 R
> 28910 05 048C 4172 G 20140322190809718 17 25 0026150+553066 37 R
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194024446 17 25 2125106+681583 37 S note
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194031518 17 25 2119427+692715 37 S
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194034167 17 25 2112475+704655 37 S
> 99999 14 581A 4172 G 20140322194038159 17 25 2106985+713981 37 S
> 38737 12 041E 4172 G 20140322194331404 17 25 2134283+681013 37 S
> 38737 12 041E 4172 G 20140322194342989 17 25 2137232+692200 37 S
> 38737 12 041E 4172 G 20140322194346811 17 25 2140952+703749 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322194521407 17 25 2141608+713523 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322194531413 17 25 2137775+694427 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322194541404 17 25 2134759+675816 37 S
> 00815 64 031C 4172 G 20140322195601505 17 25 2313956+673496 37 S
> 00815 64 031C 4172 G 20140322195611489 17 25 2302575+654459 37 S
> 04322 70 008C 4172 G 20140322195843222 17 25 2326667+670130 37 S
> 04322 70 008C 4172 G 20140322195851462 17 25 2320049+655098 37 S
> 04322 70 008C 4172 G 20140322195901510 17 25 2314142+644215 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203920212 17 25 0257906+414664 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203925243 17 25 0255423+410870 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203935233 17 25 0250500+395210 37 S
> 39462 13 072A 4172 G 20140322203940253 17 25 0248313+391528 37 S
> 10536 77 122A 4172 G 20140322204254771 17 25 0322938+414645 37 F
> 11389 79 050A 4172 G 20140322204655239 17 25 0147680+475002 37 R
> 11389 79 050A 4172 G 20140322204705248 17 25 0134977+475279 37 R
> 39475 13 072P 4172 G 20140322204740222 17 25 0149892+493021 37 F
> 39475 13 072P 4172 G 20140322204745251 17 25 0156403+474290 37 F
> 39475 13 072P 4172 G 20140322204750262 17 25 0202674+455279 37 F
> 37954 11 075A 4172 G 20140322211336325 17 25 2133041+614736 37 S
> 37954 11 075A 4172 G 20140322211345333 17 25 2141482+600038 37 S
> 37954 11 075A 4172 G 20140322211352646 17 25 2147301+583809 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322212055263 17 25 0301199+333161 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322212105242 17 25 0253006+341949 37 S
> 28888 05 042A 4172 G 20140322212115250 17 25 0244717+350488 37 S
> 38863 12 056D 4172 G 20140322212447146 17 25 2219435+585089 37 S
> 38863 12 056D 4172 G 20140322212455143 17 25 2223486+571298 37 S
> 38863 12 056D 4172 G 20140322212502061 17 25 2225903+560903 37 S
> 24279 96 046C 4172 G 20140322214205288 17 25 0030602+600549 37 S
> 24279 96 046C 4172 G 20140322214215209 17 25 0023981+584393 37 S
> 99998 14 581B 4172 G 20140322215044491 17 25 0020790+583410 37 S note
> 99998 14 581B 4172 G 20140322215044651 17 25 0020685+581079 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215455236 17 25 0201105+600356 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4172 G 20140322215505245 17 25 0157840+604421 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215505245 17 25 0150482+614226 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4172 G 20140322215515235 17 25 0146441+622372 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215515235 17 25 0138195+631973 37 S
> 38773 12 048P 4172 G 20140322215520264 17 25 0131693+640679 37 S
> 38758 12 048A 4172 G 20140322215525244 17 25 0133484+635949 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220105212 17 25 0001548+533446 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220115209 17 25 2355050+544407 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220125221 17 25 2348236+555212 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220135252 17 25 2340400+570308 37 S
> 05679 71 110B 4172 G 20140322220145213 17 25 2331679+581196 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220635218 17 25 0327328+372919 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220645219 17 25 0333398+380268 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220655258 17 25 0340131+383499 37 S
> 20691 90 050C 4172 G 20140322220705218 17 25 0346970+390820 37 S
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220805218 17 25 0346969+375074 37 S note
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220815219 17 25 0338256+382996 37 S
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220825221 17 25 0329469+390491 37 S
> 39232 13 043A 4172 G 20140322220835254 17 25 0320878+393589 37 S
> 20642 90 050E 4172 G 20140322221115224 17 25 0341931+375523 37 S
> 20642 90 050E 4172 G 20140322221125221 17 25 0348526+382588 37 S
> 31702 07 027B 4172 G 20140322221545229 17 25 0109392+574291 37 R
> 31702 07 027B 4172 G 20140322221555229 17 25 0055561+591172 37 R
> 31702 07 027B 4172 G 20140322221605230 17 25 0040176+603592 37 R
> 22565 93 016A 4172 G 20140322222945226 17 25 0102529+582681 37 S
> 22565 93 016A 4172 G 20140322222959341 17 25 0059822+600467 37 S
> 22565 93 016A 4172 G 20140322223008903 17 25 0056957+614641 37 S
> 
> Notes:
> 99999 14 581A Could this be 24680 96 072A??
> I have no recent TLE.
> 
> 99998 14 581B a short flash in one image
> 
> 39232 13 043A large residuals
> 
> ******************************
> *******************************
> Setup: WATEC 120N, Celestron Nexstar mount, NTP
> Observations made and reduced with Sattools
> Cospar 4172 ALMERE 52.3713 N 5.2580 E -3ASL
> Best regards Leo Barhorst
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:05:13 +0000
> From: Russell Eberst <eberst_at_blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: Ted Molczan <tedmolczan_at_rogers.com>, Peter Wakelin
> <peterwakelin_at_talktalk.net>, Pierre NEIRINCK
> <pierre-neirinck_at_wanadoo.fr>, Mike McCants <mmccants_at_prismnet.com>,
> Greg Roberts <grr_at_telkomsa.net>, Seesat List <SeeSat-L_at_satobs.org>,
> Bjoern Gimle <bjorn.gimle_at_gmail.com>
> Subject: 2014MAR22.OBS
> Message-ID: <532EDC09.9070806_at_blueyonder.co.uk>
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> 
> 
> SATOBS
> 
> 2420 1403 0.211 1204
> 22
> 1002805 191404.49 105821+454114 6.2 6.2 0 S
> 0803601 193045.21 155259+431606 5.7 5.7 0 S
> 9607201 193516.88 164353+431059 4.7 4.7 0 S
> 1006207 194024.24 141450+650410 5.8 5.8 0 S
> 0504201 194131.30 100511+101432 4.6 4.6 0 S
> 0705301 194612.62 134345+384853 5.1 5.1 0 S
> 0705301 194648.17 150246+480247 5.2 5.2 0 S
> 1400903 195116.11 040720+802633 3.3 3.3 0 S
> 9703006 200042.55 163712+485759 4.2 7.9 60 I
> 8401206 200556.48 005655+704154 6.5 6.5 0 S
> 9801002 201206.71 174350+500516 7.5 7.5 0 S
> 1305201 201449.13 183813+521324 7.4 7.4 0 S
> 0702902 201830.36 132233+240651 4.3 4.3 0 S
> 1006201 202101.60 090601+672017 4.9 4.9 0 S
> 7003702 202315.21 085031+173537 1.8 1.8 0 S
> 0906602 202445.40 094301+400408 1.3 1.3 0 S
> 8502101 202950.30 122431+512859 5.5 5.5 0 S
> 1304301 203039.40 125508+575742 5.8 5.8 0 S
> 8204103 203545.81 072234+203541 7.0 7.0 0 S
> 8800102 204223.73 143413+430528 5.8 5.8 0 S
> 1305902 204458.46 164436+552240 2.4 5.7 10 R
> 1307214 204621.30 145029+464122 1.1 3.4 20 R
> 1307214 204713.39 123448+702735 0.7 2.6 20 R
> 0906601 205227.09 161901+454345 6.5 6.5 0 S
> 0501701 205809.80 194050+502916 7.2 7.7 0.5 R
> 9805503 205949.66 141331+524503 5.4 5.4 0 S
> 9607201 210718.90 033736+372010 3.6 3.6 0 S
> 1107501 211422.48 184314+550210 5.9 5.9 0 S
> 0504201 211850.83 054924+140900 6.3 6.3 0 S
> 9202301 212211.21 082945+203642 4.4 6.1 0.5 R
> 9906401 212444.50 195419+643516 6.0 6.0 0 S
> 1103002 212500.40 202037+634936 5.6 5.6 0 S
> 8109402 212913.00 175511+612504 7.2 7.2 0 S
> 7604301 213507.16 153520+544429 6.9 6.9 0 S
> 9001802 214712.10 062543+790317 5.7 5.7 0 S
> 999
> 
> Total Observations (2014) 1116
> best wishes,
> Russell Eberst
> 55.9486N, 3.1383 W, 150 feet = 46 metres above MSL.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 14:21:58 +0100
> From: Leo Barhorst <leobarhorst_at_gmail.com>
> To: seesat-l_at_satobs.org
> Subject: LB Obs 2014 Mar 23 morning
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Clear morning with clouds towards dawn.
> The classified sats have high residuals, but the astrometry of the images
> was good.
> Possible due to older TLE?
> 
> 08520 75 124B 4172 G 20140323031627862 17 25 2046542+563795 37 S
> 08520 75 124B 4172 G 20140323031635229 17 25 2103917+573489 37 S
> 08520 75 124B 4172 G 20140323031645229 17 25 2127773+583333 37 S
> 23862 96 029D 4172 G 20140323031815203 17 25 2005380+373411 37 S
> 23862 96 029D 4172 G 20140323031824663 17 25 2019322+380554 37 F
> 16792 86 046B 4172 G 20140323031958826 17 25 2002583+385354 37 S
> 16792 86 046B 4172 G 20140323032005193 17 25 2014884+404730 37 S
> 24955 97 052C 4172 G 20140323032242108 17 25 2029607+382001 37 S
> 24955 97 052C 4172 G 20140323032259710 17 25 2023454+363211 37 S
> 23605 95 033A 4172 G 20140323034158132 17 25 1933223+381352 37 S
> 23605 95 033A 4172 G 20140323034205249 17 25 1918716+352724 37 S
> 22782 93 055A 4172 G 20140323035535237 17 25 1819116+305282 37 S
> 28647 05 016B 4172 G 20140323035610191 17 25 1811391+301671 37 S
> 28647 05 016B 4172 G 20140323035610229 17 25 1811557+301525 37 S
> 
> Residuals:
> 23862 96 029D 4172 G 20140323031815203 17 25 2005380+373411 37 S |
> -0.10134 deg -15.810 sec 34.3 day, 1302.8 km
> 23862 96 029D 4172 G 20140323031824663 17 25 2019322+380554 37 F |
> -0.10852 deg -15.500 sec 34.3 day, 1341.6 km
> 23605 95 033A 4172 G 20140323034158132 17 25 1933223+381352 37 S |
> 0.04945 deg 11.385 sec 12.0 day, 779.7 km
> 23605 95 033A 4172 G 20140323034205249 17 25 1918716+352724 37 S |
> 0.04021 deg 11.283 sec 12.0 day, 770.5 km
> 28647 05 016B 4172 G 20140323035610191 17 25 1811391+301671 37 S |
> -0.23995 deg -1.058 sec 10.6 day, 692.4 km
> 28647 05 016B 4172 G 20140323035610229 17 25 1811557+301525 37 S |
> -0.23018 deg -1.018 sec 10.6 day, 692.5 km
> 
> ************************************************************
> Setup: WATEC 120N, Celestron Nexstar mount, NTP
> Observations made and reduced with Sattools
> Cospar 4172 ALMERE 52.3713 N 5.2580 E -3ASL
> Best regards Leo Barhorst
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:22:57 -0400
> From: "Ted Molczan" <ssl3molcz_at_rogers.com>
> To: <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>
> Subject: NROL-67 search elements
> Message-ID: <002701cf46ab$c7877910$56966b30$@rogers.com>
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> NROL-67 is scheduled for launch on an Atlas V-541, from CCAFS, on Tuesday, March 25, 2014 at 18:48 UTC, during a launch
> period from 18:05 to 19:35 UTC.
> 
> http://www.spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av045/status.html
> 
> I believe that it will launch a new generation of GEO SIGINT satellite.
> 
> The following rough search elements are derived from those used for NROL-15, based on launch at 18:48 UTC:
> 
> SECO 1 190 X 244 km
> 1 79600U 14084.79221989 .00656932 00000-0 21234-3 0 05
> 2 79600 28.7000 287.6030 0040859 90.0000 38.0000 16.22456322 06
> 
> SECO 2 212 X 35809 km
> 1 79600U 14084.80100697 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 03
> 2 79600 26.5000 287.5344 7298000 180.0000 0.0000 2.28000000 07
> 
> SECO 3 35822 X 35906 km
> 1 79600U 14085.01969908 .00000000 00000-0 00000-0 0 05
> 2 79600 6.0000 287.4526 0010000 180.1373 179.8600 1.00000000 00
> 
> The payload is likely to drift west toward its initial operational location.
> 
> Some additional guesses:
> 
> I believe that this launch is the same one that was known for a time as AFSPC-2, which according to an unofficial
> manifest on NASASpaceFlight.com, was to employ an Atlas V-541. The USAF budgeted about $27.5 million to qualify the
> Atlas V extended mission kit (EMK) (aka GSO kit), which was to have first flown on AFSPC-2. The EMK enables the Centaur
> stage to operate 6 h instead of the standard 2 h, required for 3-burn direct insertion GEO missions. There are two
> common GEO launch profiles. In the first and most common, the launch vehicle's mission ends with insertion of the
> payload near the perigee of a geosynchronous transfer orbit, and the payload completes the remaining manoeuvres to
> reduce the inclination and circularize the orbit at GEO altitude, using a PKM, thrusters, or some combination. In the
> other profile, the upper stage performs all of the major manoeuvres to reach the final GEO orbit, leaving only minor
> adjustments for the payload.
> 
> With the exception of Rhyolite in the 1970s, NRO SIGINT satellites launched to Molniya or GEO, have relied on the upper
> stage to perform all of the manoeuvres to reach their final orbit. The only non-SIGINT NRO satellite to use this mode,
> was the SDS 1, during the 1970s and 80s.
> 
> The AFSPC-2 label later was assigned to AEHF-3, which employs the Atlas V-531 and does not require an EMK. About the
> same time, NROL-67 appeared on public manifests, employing an Atlas V-541, which I strongly suspect is the former
> AFSPC-2 vehicle and its EMK, which is strong evidence that it is the next generation GEO SIGINT. 
> 
> The new spacecraft may share the same bus as the Trumpet-FO (Follow On) SIGINT, launched to Molniya from VAFB in 2006
> and 2008: 2006-027A / 29249 on Delta IV-M (4,2), and 2008-010A / 32706 on Atlas V-411. Trumpet-FO satellites host the
> SBIRS-HEO sensors. I have roughly estimated their combined mass between 3,900 and 4,500 kg.
> 
> U.S. GEO SIGINTs typically operate in orbits initially inclined between 5 and 7 deg. Based on the mission planner's
> guide, the Atlas V 541 can directly insert about 3,850 kg into a 6 deg GEO orbit; the next smaller vehicle, 531, can
> insert about 3,400 kg, so the payload range would be 3,400 kg to 3,850 kg, which seems about right for a Trumpet
> Follow-On without the SBIRS sensor.
> 
> Fairing sizes disagree: Trumpet-FO employs 4 m fairings, NROL-67's is 5 m; however, the 3-burn insertion to GEO option
> is only available for the Atlas V-521, 531, 541 and 551, so the payload's dimensions may not have determined the fairing
> size.
> 
> Ted Molczan
> 
> 
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