Just found this one flashing about once per second: 94- 38 E 97-04-27 09:04 JHR 30 1 30 1 mag4 @225mis az330 el31 94- 38 E 97-04-30 04:08 JHR 30 1 30 1 flicker about 1x/sec JHR: Jay Respler, Freehold NJ, USA =================== With these predictions using all of Alan's elements, I looked for the pass with the smallest TIM. Nothing seen through thin clouds from 4:24-4:28am 40.283 74.233 129. JAY RESPLER 1950 11.0 3 F T T T T *** 1997 Apr 30 Wed morning *** Times are AM EDT *** 2041 5 6 H M S Tim Azi ElC Dir Mag Dys F Hgt Shd Rng R A Dec RCS Name 4 25 18 .3 42 38 107 20.6 0 0 258 168 402 2321 57.4 SL-12 r (aux m 4 25 53 .3 65 29C 121 21.5 0 0 257 187 483 2322 36.7 4 26 11 .6 57 24C 111 21.4 0 0 175 98 395 0 5 39.9 4 26 31 .1 80 33C 140 22.1 0 0 461 414 760 2235 27.5 Jay Respler -- Details of how to get on the Satellite Observer Mail List, satellite elements, prediction programs and other satellite information, at the Visual Satellite Observers Home Page: http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/sat/satintro.html -- JRespler@InJersey.com Satellite Tracker * Early Typewriter Collector Freehold, New Jersey