re: Predicted Shuttle TLEs

From: Walter Nissen (wnissen@freenet.tlh.fl.us)
Date: Sun May 21 2000 - 07:49:06 PDT

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    In trying to use the data provided by JSC FDO,
    http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/elements/
    http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings/SSapplications/Post/JavaSSOP/orbit/SHUTTLE/SVPOST.html
    I've had some difficulty reconciling it
    with the Flight Day Summary provided at
    http://shuttlepresskit.com/STS-101/flt_mls.htm.
    
    A background problem is that I haven't, for this mission or earlier
    missions, found a reliable source of an updated timeline/event summary.
    I need to know about docking/undocking so I can tell people how many
    objects to expect to see.  I need an impulse by impulse accounting for
    the orbital changes, so I can estimate how far apart the objects will be
    and in what order they pass by.  There is some sort of monstrously huge
    "timeline", which can only be read in that annoying Acrobat reader that
    chops everything up into single pages, but I've never been able to
    interpret the timeline into any info I can use.
    
    The Flight Day Summary lists an undock at 2000-05-26 21:32:44 (actually
    it gives it in some goofy local time, but I converted that).  The FDO
    data as interpreted by Ruben Velasco, correctly I believe, gives
    these times of validity:
    
    STS-101           Valid from 20000526/10:15:09.957   364.5 x 378.9 km
    1 26368U 00027A   00147.43853399  .00100000  00000-0  10000-3 0  9209
    2 26368  51.5840 249.3973 0010640   9.8624 350.2741 15.65530067  1121
    STS-101           Valid from 20000526/23:26:12.464   361.3 x 378.7 km
    1 26368U 00027A   00148.01300918  .00100000  00000-0  10000-3 0  9219
    2 26368  51.5843 246.4835 0012840   2.9820 357.1412 15.66126088  1211
    
    Does the difference between 21 hours and 23 hours represent a
    2-hour-long slow drift away from the ISS until OV-104 is put into a new
    orbit or some deeper problem?
    
    Then, for the pass for Cleveland and DC which occurs about 2000-05-27
    0800, I don't have an elset for the ISS.  I guess I can munge the
    catalog number in the first elset given above and use that.  So I obtain
    something like:
    
    ISS  hypothetical Valid from 20000526/10:15:09.957   364.5 x 378.9 km
    1 86368E 00027A   00147.43853399  .00100000  00000-0  10000-3 0  9209
    2 86368  51.5840 249.3973 0010640   9.8624 350.2741 15.65530067  1121
    STS-101           Valid from 20000526/23:26:12.464   361.3 x 378.7 km
    1 26368U 00027A   00148.01300918  .00100000  00000-0  10000-3 0  9219
    2 26368  51.5843 246.4835 0012840   2.9820 357.1412 15.66126088  1211
    
    Does that seem right?
    
    Thanks for any insight.
    
    Cheers.
    
    Walter Nissen                   wnissen@tfn.net
    -81.8637, 41.3735, 256m elevation
    
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