On Fri, 13 May 2011 20:30:26 -0700, you (Skywise <skywise@skywise711.com>) wrote: >Even if the images are hosted elsewhere and only links provided here, >there is still the issue of using those images. If the owner does >not release the images for use, then it is technically illegal for >someone to take that image, do something with it, and then post it >elsewhere. Posting it (publishing) would be the violation. Whether or not, it still is of no concern to Seesat-L what anyone else does with those images. This copyright discussion is, in my opinion, a meta subject that doesn't touch Ted's original request for debate. The reason to have a policy regarding raw images, image data (as per Ted's suggestion in his August '10 post), and description of the processing involved, is to reduce the volume of discussion about the interpretation of what can be seen in the final result. A more streamlined reporting standard would limit the somewhat frequently occuring instances of "Is not!"-"Is too!" like back and forth interaction between certain members that seems to pop up at times. I agree that hi-res imaging falls well under the umbrella of "visual satellite observing" and should be a welcome part of this list, just as other different aspects of the hobby already are. Personally, I'm certainly very interested in seeing the results and knowing about how the imager got there, no matter if I agree with the result or not. And frankly, it is in an imager's best interest to provide background data and processing steps, as a somewhat scientific validation that indeed there is (or might be) in the image what he or she says it is. No one is forced to publish results here in the first place, but if they do, it's not a bad idea to have some basic standard in place that makes different people's results comparable. Posting here is voluntary, Seesat-L doesn't need to worry about copyright, fair use, derivative works, etc., because all of that would be only between the image creator and whoever further uses those images for which purpose. Your copyright for your original creations is in place and applies at all times anyway, whether explicitly stated or not. Seesat-L would only hold links. But if there is concern that we have a potential copyright issue here, Ted did already suggest "An alternative would be to state that the [raw image] data is available upon request" which I think is a good compromise - while I still would definitely want to know which processing steps were applied to the raw images. Or in short, I'm with Ted's "option 2" thoughts here: http://satobs.org/seesat/Aug-2010/0134.html _______________________________________________ Seesat-l mailing list http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l
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