Re: OT : Space X Crew Dragon Late abort zone

From: pmafer via Seesat-l <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>
Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 23:23:26 +0100
NAVAREA IV 389/20(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   170730Z TO 170917Z MAY, ALTERNATE
   180709Z TO 180856Z AND 190647Z TO 190834Z MAY
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-36-55N 080-36-00W, 28-48-00N 080-24-00W,
      28-54-00N 080-17-00W, 29-17-00N 079-49-00W,
      29-15-00N 079-46-00W, 28-41-00N 080-17-00W,
      28-34-00N 080-25-00W, 28-31-00N 080-31-00W,
      28-30-26N 080-33-00W.
   B. 31-58-00N 076-58-00W, 33-09-00N 075-58-00W,
      33-23-00N 075-36-00W, 33-23-00N 074-56-00W,
      33-15-00N 074-37-00W, 32-48-00N 074-35-00W,
      32-29-00N 074-59-00W, 31-40-00N 076-42-00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 190934Z MAY 20.//

NAVAREA IV 388/20(GEN).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   161224Z TO 161453Z MAY, ALTERNATE
   171314Z TO 171532Z AND 181354Z TO 181434Z MAY
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-36-51N 080-35-57W, 28-41-00N 080-26-00W,
      28-36-00N 080-23-00W, 28-31-36N 080-33-34W.
   B. 32-28-00N 075-12-00W, 33-50-00N 072-51-00W,
      33-08-00N 072-17-00W, 31-45-00N 074-41-00W.
   C. 38-43-00N 062-38-00W, 40-23-00N 058-26-00W,
      39-18-00N 057-47-00W, 37-34-00N 061-56-00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 181534Z MAY 20.//


On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:09 PM satcom ops via Seesat-l <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>
wrote:

> Hopefully not  too far off topic here ...
>
> With the Dragon crew now in 14 day quarantine in advance of their
> mission  a heads up for later this month when Space X will launch to the
> ISS
> This will be the first "manned" launch in nearly ten years , from Florida.
>
> Those who remember the days of the shuttle will be aware that a number
> of airfields in Europe were designated as abort/escape sites for the
> shuttle should
> problems arise before reaching orbit.
>
> Last year the first unmanned test took place and a notice to mariners
> issued had four ocean sectors , one of which described a point off the
> Irish coast about 150 miles abeam Shannon.
>
> 260952Z FEB 19
> NAVAREA IV 134/19(GEN).
> WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
> EASTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
> FLORIDA.
> CANADA.
> IRELAND.
> 1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
> 020740Z TO 020820Z MAR, ALTERNATE
> 050630Z TO 050710Z MAR:
> A. IN AREA BOUND BY
> 28-37-00N 080-38-00W, 28-47-00N 080-31-00W,
> 28-56-00N 080-19-00W, 28-53-00N 080-16-00W,
> 28-41-00N 080-23-00W, 28-35-00N 080-27-00W,
> 28-34-00N 080-37-00W.
> B. IN AREA BOUND BY
> 31-21-00N 077-35-00W, 31-50-00N 077-13-00W,
> 32-06-00N 076-31-00W, 31-58-00N 076-24-00W,
> 31-28-00N 076-54-00W, 31-11-00N 077-26-00W.
> C. IN AREA BETWEEN
> 47-58-35N 46-35-21N AND 051-18-33W 049-30-08W.
> D. IN AREA BETWEEN
> 53-01-57N 51-30-47N AND 011-50-53W 011-
>
>
>
> This inferred that the area off the coast of Ireland could be a late
> abort zone for capsule recovery should the mission fail just prior to
> orbit insertion.
> The Space X capsule does not of course have the luxury of being able to
> glide down to a safe
> airfield , as did the shuttle , so in the event of a late abort it looks
> like the eastern Atlantic could come into play.
>
> This seems to be confirmed by a statement here.....
>
>
> "If required, thrusters on the Crew Dragon or Starliner spacecraft would
> fire after an abort to ensure the capsule lands within about 300 miles
> of eastern Canada or Ireland, NASA officials told CBS News. "
>
> https://spaceflightnow.com/2020/01/16/s ... e-teams/
>
>
> Despite enquiries to a number of agencies , Space X , NASA etc , over
> the last three weeks , unusually , no one has got back to me regarding
> the arrangements for late abort recovery.
> This is obviously an important part of the launch campaign/contingency.
>
> I wonder if anyone on list has any idea as to what arrangements have
> been made to deploy a SAR/recovery team to the eastern Atlantic in case
> of need.
>
> The launch campaign starts around the 22nd , with lift  off on
> May 27th.
>
>
> Thanks and best wishes
>
> John
>
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