>about mag 3.5. A candidate for the "Visual 100," Actually, since I've revised the list, Visual.Tle is a more accurate description. I now have about 120 sats in the file. At mag 3.5, you're right. It should go into Visual. I'll note it for the next update that I do. More suggestions always welcome. Jay.Respler@Genie.com Freehold, New Jersery