Well, I guess persistence pays off. For the last several weeks, I have been trying to setup the various programs to see if I can observe some satellites. Until this evening, I have had no success. So, I switched to one of the online prediction services. I am using: GSOC(German Space Operations Center). http://www.gsoc.dlr.de/satvis/ It amazes me that I have to go to a sight all the way over in Germany to get predictions for Southern Canada..... It was perfect. I believe I saw the following satellites: Intercosmos 19 Iridium 79 Cosmos 1938 Cosmos 1300 AND IRIDIUM 82 FLARE........YES...It was beautiful....Extremely bright. What a magnificant sight. I watched it wink on and then off again in seconds....It was wonderful... Now, if only I could get those darn programs setup correctly, so that I don't have to rely on online services. Terry