Re: Superbird A 2002-11-14 UTC

From: Mir16609@aol.com
Date: Thu Nov 14 2002 - 08:24:09 EST

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    In a message dated 11/14/2002 4:38:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ed Cannon <ecannon@mail.utexas.edu> writes:
    
    >I think 
    >he was using a telescope, 
    
    Right - a 6" f8 Dobsonian
    
    >I wish I could determine the phase 
    >shift time, but it's just a bit too tricky given my 
    >rustic observing method.
    
    There are probably 2 way to do it.  First, record the 
    minute where the brightness of the 1st flashing surface
    is the same as the brightness of the 2nd flashing surface. 
    The second way (assuming that you see the entire flashing 
    sequence)is if you record the time of the 1st flash and the 
    last flash and take the mid-point.  Rob Matsond stated a
    while ago that 1 minute accurace is probably good enough.
    
    >I have a bit of a problem in doing PPAS reports on it, 
    >because of its phase shift.  Its actual flash period now 
    >is 22.6 seconds
    >So, 
    >which of the following is the correct PPAS report?
    >
    >89- 41 A 02-11-14 03:22:03.0 EC  418.1 0.2  37 11.30  +3.5->inv
    >89- 41 A 02-11-14 03:22:03.0 EC  339.0 0.2  15 22.60  +3.5->inv
    
    If the actully flash period is 22.6 seconds report that
    time.  IMO you are seeing the flashes of (what I call) the
    phantom surface that I reported in a couple of posts: 
    http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Oct-2001/0177.html
    http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Nov-2002/0010.html
    
    I think you're missing the main show.  Wait about 5-10
    minutes after the 22.6 flash period ends and try again.  You
    should see the more typical 22.6 to 11.3 to 22.6 second flash
    periods. 
    
    From my earlier post:
    89-041 A 02-11-14 03:18:17.33JDG 451.9 0.3  20 22.59  +5.5->inv
    89-041 A 02-11-14 03:35:14.08JDG 530.9 0.3  47 11.30  +2.0->inv
    
    Your PPAS report correspondes to the first report. Austin, TX
    should see Superbird A about 3 minutes before Maryland - so
    your phase shift should have occurred at about 03:27:30 UTC 
    last night.
    
    -- 
    Cheers,
    Don Gardner  39.1799 N, 76.8406 W, 100m ASL
    http://hometown.aol.com/mir16609/
    http://www.howardastro.org/
    
    
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