>The Titan 4 upper stage was observed to be in good agreement with the >elements from OIG. It was tumbling slowly to magnitude 1. I missed the first day opportunities because of work, but on Oct.25 at 16:46:36 UT I saw it at magnitude +6, one flash to +4.5, on a short arc 5.5 degrees above the horizon (az.221.5, about 3 s early), a situation similar to when I saw the Clementine Titan (no elset). I missed Lacrosse 3, probably because I assumed it would have left the parking orbit and/or be to faint, and returned to observation after more than one minute ! -- --------------------------------------------------------------- -- bjorn@tt-tech.se (office) b_gimle@algonet.se (home) -- -- 59.2237N, 18.2286E, 44 m http://www.algonet.se/~b_gimle -- -- SeeSat-L / Visual Satellite Observer Home Page found at -- -- http://www.satellite.eu.org/satintro.html -- ---------------------------------------------------------------