Double unknowns

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After over a week of cloudy, wet and at times, snowy skies, i had 2
consecutive nights of clear skies. Last night i was able to see 12 of 16
sats along with a -3 flare by Iridium 12. I also spotted 2 unknowns that i
have not been able to ID as of yet:=20

Unknown #1 - Time  - 02:20:14 UTC (20 Oct)
             Elev  - 70-80=D8
             Azim  - 090=D8
             Track - 180=D8 to 010=D8
             Mag   - 3.5 (est)
             Comments: It remained visible for quite some time. Iridium 9=20
                       matches it's track but it was too low

Unknown #2 - Time  - 02:34:50 UTC (20 Oct)
             Elev  - 30-35=D8
             Azim  - 045=D8
             Track - 090=D8 to 355=D8
             Mag   - 2.0
             Comments: Spot 3 r (22830 is too early and too high) while
                       Sert 2 (04327) is too late

Thanks in advance for any help in identifying these two unknowns.

Jari
54.25N
110.11W
556m

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