tom@bullhammer.com and Don, I've got a photo of NOAA 11 at Sat-Tracks.com, it was caught as I was setting up for an Iridium t pass. It shows the second of two flares in UMa. Direct URL is: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Galaxy/3070/NOAA11.jpg It flared above the tail and then I opened the shutter and caught the second flare below the tail. More general shots by Tristan Cools are also at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Galaxy/3070/General.htm and BWGS object shots also by Tristan at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Galaxy/3070/BWGS.htm Or you can enter the "front door" Sat-tracks.com. Jim