We don't know where to look for the second stage - it may have had an impulse of unknown magnitude so could be any of A to V -one might guess A as it would be the easy thing to track. B is probably CASSIOPE Perhaps ALL of C to V are second stage insulation debris, and the other payloads - POPACS, DANDE, CUSAT - have not yet been cataloged at all, and will only be spotted once they are far enough separated from CASSIOPE to be distinguishable! On 1 October 2013 18:09, Dr. T.S. Kelso <TS.Kelso@celestrak.com> wrote: > For those of you who might be interested, the image at: > > http://celestrak.com/events/2013-055-3D-3.gif > > shows where we are right now. The POPACS orbits (green) are based on > SpaceX state vectors at deployment and where we know the masses and > sizes to calculate the orbits. The CASSIOPE TLE Dr. Langley provided is > in blue. The yellow orbits are based on SpaceX deployment state vectors > and public information on the drag characteristics (size and mass) for > CASSIOPE and DANDE (we're working to get that for CUSAT). We do not have > deployment velocities or any post-deployment maneuver info (only CUSAT > looks to be maneuverable). These objects are all tracking close to > OBJECT B. > > However, you can see that the remaining 19 objects are scattered all > around the orbit plane. Something isn't adding up. I provide this > information to hopefully help others sort through the possibilities. - TS > > Dr. T.S. Kelso > CelesTrak, http://celestrak.com > E-Mail: TS.Kelso@celestrak.com > > On 2013-10-01 08:08, Jonathan McDowell wrote: >> This is pretty close to the object being tracked as 2013-055B 39266 >> >> On 1 October 2013 09:57, Richard B. Langley <lang@unb.ca> wrote: >>> CASSIOPE >>> 1 99999U 99999Z 13272.64230504 .00074327 00000-0 25352-2 0 00004 >>> 2 99999 080.9958 315.2504 0800469 157.7147 206.1636 13.95988889000018 >>> >>>> Richard Langley wrote: >>>> >>>>> If anybody wants TLEs for CASSIOPE (the main payload on the Falcon 9), I have them from >>>>> spacecraft tracking. I can send them directly or post them to the list if that is >>>>> permissible. >>>> It is permissible, provided that the TLEs did not originate at USSTRATCOM (which operates the Space Track site). >>>> >>>> Ted Molczan >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> | Richard B. Langley E-mail: lang@unb.ca | >>> | Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ | >>> | Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics Engineering Phone: +1 506 453-5142 | >>> | University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 | >>> | Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 | >>> | Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ | >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Seesat-l mailing list >>> http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l >> _______________________________________________ >> Seesat-l mailing list >> http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Seesat-l mailing list > http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l _______________________________________________ Seesat-l mailing list http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l
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