Hi Folks This was actually a naked eye obsevation. Here is his reply. Willie ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Willie Koorts <wpk@saao.ac.za> writes: >Just one question to help identify this better - it is not clear what >intrument you were using since the field of view sounds stange from >your >description of an 11 x 2 degree tail. Hi Willie, I did not use any instruments to get that figure. I used my hand, because I was just standing waiting for a bus when I saw it. The method I used was, "but I don't know if you know this" was the one where you hold up your finger and it counts as 2 degrees and when you hold up a fist it counts as 10 deg. That's the method I used. Clear skies, Conrad W. Humphrey (Amateur Astronomer) Donwon1@juno.com 40deg 43' 45" N 73deg 59' 43" W New York, NY