re: unid sat obs

From: Ed Cannon (edcannonsat@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Sep 05 2013 - 20:33:14 UTC

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    Kevin wrote:
    
    > UNID130905                                                    
    > 1 99999           13248.04013271 0.00000154  00000-0  50000-4 0    06
    > 2 99999  64.9838 138.2816 0011006 245.8285 249.7643 14.38796475    00
    
    And Cees replied:
    
    > It looks like something NOSS like, but it doesn't immediately seem to
    > match anything we've lost for a while.
    
    Well, the following is not a match, but I still hope that one of you or
    someone will by accident catch at least one part of the following.  I
    don't know for sure when it/they (TiPS/Ralph and Norton) was/were lost, 
    but here are two elsets that I was able to locate online.  The second 
    one is from heavens-above.com:
    
    TiPS             2.5  0.0  0.0  6.3 d
    1 23937U 96029F   03275.99999376  .00001600  00000-0  14382-2 0    08
    2 23937  63.4055 287.3103 0242000   1.8302 358.1698 13.715421600   05
    
    1 23937U 96029F   06195.10715782 0.00000300  00000-0  21157-3 0    07
    2 23937  63.3975  71.9486 0341997   4.3835 355.6165 13.73294158    04
    
    Presumably (certainly?) the tether broke and Ralph and Norton went 
    their separate ways.  While they were still tethered together, I could
    see Ralph and Norton sometimes with my binoculars and sometimes even 
    the tether itself on exceptional passes.  Jonathan's satcat file has 
    designations for both Ralph and Norton.
    
    Once I accidentally saw something from a NOSS launch that flared to 
    a magnitude that made it observable for me.  Ted identified it, but I
    can't find either of those messages right now.  It seems like maybe 
    Ted called it "LIPS", but it's been a long time and that may not be 
    correct.  It was some sort of piece of a NOSS launch.
    
    Now back to your regularly scheduled observing and reporting...
    
    Ed Cannon - Austin, Texas, USA
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