This seems a bit odd. Here's a line from a line from satwk44.rpt on what we've been calling Lacrosse 3: 1997-064A USA 133 25017 US 24 Oct No current elements and here's a similar line from (Mike M's format of) the 1997-10 SSR: 25017 97-064A USA 133 US 10/24/97 NO ELEMENTS AVAILABLE I didn't really think they'd give me Lacrosse 3 (or USA 133) elements, but, out of curiosity I guess, a little while ago I requested 25017 from OIG and got the following elset ... and noticed that they have it as 90103D (a fourth part of the USA 66/Navstar 22 launch)! Satellite number = 25017 1 25017U 90103D 97334.38665906 .00079636 -30957-6 38009-3 0 16 2 25017 34.5124 28.6818 3942148 277.6608 40.4643 7.71857302 30033 Is this a real object? If they continue to issue elsets for this object, should we give Lacrosse 3 or it a different catalog number in our elsets, or what? Ed C. ecannon@mail.utexas.edu Austin, Texas, USA