Ron -- Congratulations! As for the numbering of objects, here's what the Flight Dymanics folks here at Orbcomm here at Orbcomm have, based on our own on-orbit testing and observations: The satellites are called A1-A6. On launch, satellites 4 and 5 did not separate from each other, however they were separated yesterday (Monday, 29-Dec) at approx. 1900 utc. We are waiting for NORAD to catalog them. We expect A4 to precede A6 and be first in line. This is the order of satellites prior to yesterday's A4/5 separation: Object Name 97-084E A6 97-084B A4/A5 97-084D A7 97-084A Unknown object (anyone have any idea what this may be?) 97-084C A8 97-084H A3 97-084G A2 97-084F A1 97-084J is Pegasus debris and 97-084K is the HAPS Finally, a burn was done on A1 last night (Monday EST) that will move it farther back from the pack. More as it develops... Eric -- Eric Rosenberg Orbcomm Global LP rosenberg.eric@orbcomm.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Orbcomm Obs Success! Author: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> at INTERNET Date: 30-12-97 6:12 AM Decided to give the Orbcomm's another try this morning, but with the 8" telescope. It was another good elevation pass but to the south at 5:45 AM local, so the sun angle was not ideal. After seeing a large cloud threatening to move over my selected star, I re-ran Skymap for a star above Spica. That star grouping was easily found and four minutes prior to appearance, I started to move to the original point. The cloud seemed too close so I returned to the backup star. Waited and waited. Amazing that a mere minute of time can seem to take forver..but then one flashed by...then two.. and three. Finally I see all five of the leading group. Now I have to move the scope up a bit for the second group. I think I am on the right spot but not certain. Time again drags. Oh well, at least I saw five, then another flashes through the field of view, then another and YES, the 8th one goes by as well. Once again I am a semi-competent satellite observer. The magnitudes under these less than favorable conditions was in the 8.5 to 9 range. Range about 1060 km, Matson sun phase angle about 77 degrees. Perhaps someone can view these under better illumination conditions to see if they become binocular objects. Ron Lee