Hi All, Lacrosse 3 R/B has been making some nice passes the last few nights in southern California. Its magnitude varies quite a bit over the course of a zenith pass -- anywhere from 1st magnitude to under 3rd. The effect is more than what would be expected from aspect angle and range effects -- perhaps the Titan is in a slow tumble. Forgot to mention a couple weeks ago while I was in Aspen, I managed to catch a -7 (predicted) flare from Iridium 25 on November 29th at ~10:52am MST. Since I was on the centerline, the maximum flare brightness could not have exceeded the predicted -7; however, it could easily have been -6 if the satellite orientation was off a little. Without references, there's no way to really judge the intensity other than to say that it was definitely brighter than -5 (Venus in daytime). This is the closest to local noon that I've observed an Iridium flare. I have the clear air and high altitude of Aspen to thank for this observation -- no way it could have been seen from the usually hazy daytime skies of the Los Angeles basin. And now, about this full moon business. I want to thank Ed for posting those two links. They confirm the contrarian remarks I've been e-mailing to the dozens of friends/colleagues that have been forwarding this "brightest moon in 133 years" baloney. Whenever I see a story like this, I take great (perverse?) satisfaction in debunking it. Yes, it will be a large, bright full moon, and certainly I'll be watching (more the tides than the moon itself!). Years ago I wrote a program to calculate and plot tidal force as a function of time, and at least for my location there were 9 previous times this century that the tidal force was the same or greater: Local Relative Date Stress ---------- -------- 1- 4-1912 46.477 12- 7-1919 46.345 1-15-1930 46.384 12-16-1937 46.356 1-26-1948 46.410 12-29-1955 46.446 12-19-1964 46.412 1- 8-1974 46.478 12- 2-1990 46.390 versus: 12-22-1999 46.345 Granted, tidal stress is not the same thing as brightness, but they are closely related. As indicated in the Sky & Telescope link, the January 4th, 1912 event is the clear winner. If you read the original Star Gazer story carefully, it DOESN'T say that the upcoming full moon will be the brightest in 133 years! Even the title is clear about this: "The Astonishing Lunar Illumination of December 22nd, 1999! The Brightest First Night of Winter in 133 Years! " "Brightest First Night of Winter" not "Brightest Full Moon in 133 years". Somebody took that story out of context, unleashed it on the internet, and now everyone thinks that they can drive with their headlights off on the Winter Solstice! ;-) Another amusing side note is that all these stories are saying to look on Wednesday night, December 22nd. Maybe for Europe, but not the United States! Ignore the solstice -- that has absolutely nothing to do with moon's brightness. Full moon is at 12/22 ~17:31 UT. But perigee is at 12/22 10:55 UT. So for the east coast, full moon is at 12:31pm and perigee is at 5:55am. Clearly *Tuesday* night the 21st/22nd is the peak night. What would be interesting is to determine the point on the earth that will experience the brightest moon. Presumably it occurs sometime between 10:55 UT and 17:31 UT. Hard to say which effect is more important: earth-moon distance, or moon- earth-sun angle. Split the difference for now -- call the peak time 14:13 UT. What's the moon's longitude and latitude at that time? Works out that geodetic latitude 20.38 N, 144.26E is the location on earth where the moon will be at zenith at this time. This is a little west of the Mariana Islands in the Philippine Sea. I hope some enterprising individual will set up a "web cam" in Piazza San Marco in Venice, Italy. The flooding there should be most impressive! --Rob ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe from SeeSat-L by sending a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@lists.satellite.eu.org http://www2.satellite.eu.org/seesat/seesatindex.html