Last night 12/20 PST ETS-6 was already flashing 1-power by 20:58 11' before shadow entry, 1-power flashes stopped 21:01 9' before. That's 12/21 4:58 and 5:01 UTC. No timings on this occasion. Later I saw the Vandenberg launch of KOMPSAT and ACRIMSAT on a Taurus. It seemed to be on time, launch window began 23:10. A short but visible flame when I first saw it. I imagine that the launch azimuth was roughly SSW for a polar orbit? ... I thought I saw objects (stages?) separating at 23:14:43 and 23:16:08, and the last burn that I saw ended at 23:17:41. Maximum elevation about 25 degrees from here in Orange County, quite easy to see even from a well-lit parking lot, just looked NW to W. Details from the links within http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rawhide_home_page/vandenbe.htm, especially the 30th Space Wing Public Affairs Office phone # who confirmed at T-20 minutes that it was still on. Best, Mark lat 33.729 long -117.822 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe from SeeSat-L by sending a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@lists.satellite.eu.org http://www2.satellite.eu.org/seesat/seesatindex.html