Hi all >> shadows. does venus cast visible shadows? i've heard of bright meteors >> (-8, -10 range i would assume) casting them. who knows? so who among you >> is going to be the first to turn your back on a monster-flare to look for >> your shadow? > >I've seen shadows cast by Venus. On a recent Iridium flare (magnitide >-5.6) I turned my back to look on the ground but saw nothing. I think it >would be quite difficult! > >It was easier (for Venus) to be inside a dark room & see the patch of >light moving slowly across the wall. Once you found the patch of light, >it was fairly easy to make a shadow. The same trick would be hard for a >short-duration Iridium flare! > >Best, Mark >-- >Mark Hanning-Lee, markhl@prodigy.net > I used this trick to see a shadow cast by Jupiter at opposition (It was mag -2.5 I think). Put on a white T-shirt or sweatshirt. Wait for Jupiter to be at an altitude of 45 degrees or so. Put your hand in front of you so that Jupiter can cast a shadow on your T-shirt. Now you will have to wait for the same sort of conditions with Iridiums satellites. Hope this helps. Another trick to compare magnitude of a crescent moon and a bright Iridium flare: take a low power pair of binoculars and look at the moon through the wrong side of the binocs. The moon should be concentrated to something looking more like a dot than with one power. Try different powers of binoculars. Try o look a Venus too.(Mag -5) The 7 day moon is said to be mag -9 I think. Then imagine the middle of these two bightness and you get mag -7. Then imagine some brightness in the middle of -5 to -7 and you get -6, same thing for -8. If you have a bright light away from you about this bright like a spot or a lighthouse this could help too. So practice now and then get ready for the monster flare. My best one is mag -8 up to now. Than be ready for you bright Iridium flare with the same binocs. I find it easy to compare. Hope this helps. Any remarks about these methods are welcome. Jean-Christophe 'Papou' Millot - email : papou@canl.nc Consultant en Technologies de l'Information - IT Consultant B.P. 13581 98803 Noumea CEDEX Nouvelle-Caledonie - New Caledonia (22d17S, 166d28E) UT+11 Tel/Fax/Rep : (687) 27 69 84 - Mobile : (687) 77 19 97