Dear SeeSaters, For those of you who have been trying to find Molniya 3-16, with its extremely large drag term as in the elset below, I recommend the following handy rules for estimating how early it might be. You need to look at the values of ndot and n (.29301886 and 5.51805563 respectively in the elset). 1) An error in ndot of .01 causes a satellite doing 14.4 revs/day (n=14.4) to be 1 minute early/late after 1 day. 2) An error in ndot of .01 causes a satellite doing 14.4 revs/day (n=14.4) to be 4 minutes early/late after 2 days, 9 minutes early after 3 days, and pro rata. 3) If the satellite is doing only 7.2 revs/day it will be twice as early/late, and pro rata, i.e. if n=X revs/day, multiply the result by 14.4/X. 4) With a very low perigee object, variations in air drag are typically within +/-10 per cent - unless the Sun is very active, so start by assuming a 10 per cent error in ndot. Applying the rule to the elset below, you could expect the Molniya to be early/late by (.0293/.01)*(14.4/5.518) minutes after 1 day. This equates to as much as 7.6 minutes, and no less than 30 minutes after 2 days. Clearly it's vital to use the freshest elset you can find. However when the apogee is as high as 14219 km, the perturbations caused by the Sun and Moon can cause the perigee to rise or fall quite rapidly, and ndot can change very rapidly, causing confusion in NORAD's tracking system. If the true value of ndot is really twice .29301886, the satellite will be 76 minutes early after a day. Observers, be warned..... Molniya 3-16 14219 x 80 km 1 12512U 81054A 98032.88694387 .29301886 22688-1 15135-2 0 90580 2 12512 62.1634 89.8394 5225721 272.5383 31.4297 5.51805563123774 David Brierley Malvern, Worcestershire, UK Station 2675, 52.1358N, 2.3264W, 70m