Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> said: >Just found another elset from a recent launch. If this is the >H2 launch, it would appear that there may be a problem IF you >assume that the transfer orbit burn would have occurred within >30 minutes of launch. Yup. I checked the element set and it was clearly either an H-2 from Japan or a Long March from China based on the RAAN and inclination. But I don't believe there was a Chinese launch scheduled today. Here's the H-2 NASDA Web page - http://yyy.tksc.nasda.go.jp/Home/Press/Press-e/saishin3_h25f_e.cgi no word of the failure as of 20:18 GMT but I'd bet that my friends at Florida Today have something on their page. I believe this is the first failure of a NASDA launch vehicle. Philip Chien, KC4YER Earth News world (in)famous writer, science fiction fan, ham radio operator, all-around nice guy, etc.