Re: Naked Eye GEO 20110702 (and 20110705)

From: Makoto Kamada (
Date: Wed Jul 06 2011 - 11:54:37 UTC

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    11261 1979-009A AYAME 1 (ECS 1) moved along the line from 26 Aql to 42 Aql.
    However, it seems not so reflective.
    Screen shot of the Satellite Tracker 3D:
    Makoto Kamada
    On 2011/07/06 4:33, Bill wrote:
    > All:
    > First let me apologize for a major DOH moment, by sending the original message
    > in rich text.  It has been a while since I posted and I simply forgot, my
    > apologies.
    > Thank you Kevin and Ted, let me be a bit more specific, I'm sorry I had data
    > flying all over the place and I can picture you pros just cringing as you read
    > through my post ;-)
    > The observation location with my scope (I'll start there) was the coordinates I
    > gave, precisely, which were:
    > 41.85388170066449 N (a little more precise this time)
    > -79.95695918798447 W.
    > around 1000 feet ASL.
    > Googleing that will put you within 5 feet of where my scope was set up.
    > Begin Date/time in UTC was 20110702-035000
    > End Date/Time was 20110702-041000
    > Also, I used Stellarium prior to sending my original post to record the
    > approximate Alt/Az just in case that would have helped.  Which was Alt/Az Alt
    > 34* 10' 09"  Az 138* 34' 08"
    > At the Begin date/time at the above location the GEO began near 26 Aquilae and
    > by the end time it had "moved" to 42 Aquilae.  All that time was visible naked
    > eye, beginning at 2nd magnitude, slowly fading.  I watched it in my 24" for
    > quite some time, not noting any positions, just watching it because I've only
    > ever been on a handful in my scope, and I do very much enjoy watching them (the
    > tracking is fairly easy ;-)
    > Margin of error, fairly small.  Times are right on, although we didn't really
    > click a timer when we stopped watching it in my scope.
    > Positions near those two stars are very accurate, although it wouldn't surprise
    > me if it was off a little.  We used those two "bright" stars as markers which we
    > reported en masse to the astronomy club in our observing report, so those fit
    > nicely just to give the members a good idea where we're talking about, and where
    > to check on subsequent nights.  May have gone above or below either/both in
    > reality.  We aren't used to recording the exact positions/timing on things,
    > although the club pres is HIGHLY, highly accurate in regards to magnitude.  And
    > the fact that he noticed a "star" that shouldn't have been there.  He is
    > amazing.
    > But I digress...
    > And in his report this morning he says
    > "It was out there again tonight (I was just naked-eye at my  home)...5 minutes
    > later at 11:58 pm and farther east of V Aquilae, like 5 or 6  degrees, and only
    > 3rd magnitude tonight... (I know, it's the night sky moving  westward at the
    > same time, not the geo satellite)....  but not as bright,  probably because the
    > sun angle is slowly changing."
    > Location here would be:
    > 42.07623894295552 N
    > -80.069979429245 W
    > approx 700 Feet ASL.
    > Begin Date/Times UTC would be 20110705-035800
    > (no end time listed)
    > This one is not as critical or precise, just further data to back up the
    > satellite in question if you like doing this sort of thing :-)
    > I was just so excited to see a GEO naked eye after all this time.  Thanks to you
    > guys and this wonderful resource to allow me to even have a clue as to what was
    > really going on up there at 22,000 miles :-)
    > Also, what software do you all use to locate the satellites?  I would love to be
    > able to do this myself.
    > Thanks!
    > Bill
    > ==============================================================================
    > Bill, to make a confident ID, we need the coordinates of the observation site,
    > the date/time of the observation (UTC preferred), and the position of the
    > object. An estimate of the precision of the data also would be helpful. The more
    > precise the observation, the more confident the ID. Your report contains many of
    > these elements, but I am not certain which ones go together.
    > Ted Molczan
    > Bill Mitchell
    > "It is often better to keep one's mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it
    > and remove all doubt"
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