Re: Four identical high pressure cylinders found in central Argentina

From: ruben lianza via Seesat-l <seesat-l_at_lists.seesatmail.org>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 09:05:35 -0300
Thanks for your kind and quick reply Marco.

Best of success in your UN UNIDIR workshop !!

Cheers

Ruben

El mié, 14 may 2025 a las 2:35, Marco Langbroek (<marco_at_langbroek.org>)
escribió:

>
> Hi Ruben,
>
> I am in Geneva currently for a UN UNIDIR workshop. I will take a look when
> I am back home at the end of the week.
>
> Marco
>
>
>
> —
> Dr Marco Langbroek
>
> marco_at_langbroek.org
> http://www.langbroek.org
> —
>
> Op 14 mei 2025 om 02:24 heeft ruben lianza <rubenlianza_at_gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> 
> By the way, I have quite a few interesting photos of the debris and I even
> drew maps and graphics with the exact impact points and the corridor. Just
> tell me how to share them with you all.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ruben
>
> El mar, 13 may 2025 a las 21:28, ruben lianza (<rubenlianza_at_gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Dear Ted, Marco and Sat Obs members:
>> I have been working all last weekend in the recovery and investigation of
>> provenance of three high pressure cylinders that have fallen near the
>> cities of Armstrong and Bustinza, Province of Santa Fe, Argentina.
>>
>> Their crash sites are remarkably aligned in a straight line, within a  12
>> miles long x 90 yards wide corridor, heading 78.56 °.  The angle of the
>> corridor respect to the nearest parallel is about 12° which I assume is
>> coincident with its orbital inclination.
>>
>> A fourth cylinder was found yesterday, neatly sitting underneath a
>> roadside guard rail, as though someone put it in there, so I assume that is
>> not a valid *"in situ"* impact site datum.
>>
>> Two of  the farmers who found the cylinders did so when the debris got
>> entangled and dragged by their harvesting machine during the harvest run.
>> So they do not know the exact crash date (the debris were hidden by
>> vegetation).
>>
>> But there is one farmer, the one who discovered object 2, who saw it in
>> the middle of a horse corral, so since it was not covered by vegetation
>> they must have spotted it the same day or the next day after the crash, at
>> the most. They claim it was near April 25.
>>
>> That is why after asking Jonathan Mac Dowell, he replied that the failed
>> Firefly Alpha from LM (launched April 29) could be a candidate, but he
>> ruled it out straight off the batt since the launch heading was due south
>> (iota=85°).
>>
>> I am very curious about which space vehicle could have reentered by that
>> date releasing most (or all) of its high pressure cylinders over central
>> Argentina.
>>
>> Could they come from a failed ascent stage?. In this case... is there a
>> possibility to get any ascent TLE´s of possible candidates for those two
>> dates (24 - 25 Apr with a "iota" of about 12 degrees)?
>>
>> The favour of an answer will be infinitely appreciated.
>>
>> All the best.
>>
>> Ruben
>>
>>
>>
>>

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