Ed Cannon and I drove about 20 miles north to a spot where the clouds were not covering the predicted location for the Centaur fuel dump. Ed spotted the fuel dump gas cloud about 4:39UT. Initially it was about 1 degree in diameter and about 1st magnitude. Within a few minutes it expanded to become several degrees in diameter. It was still faintly visible in my 8 inch telescope over an hour later. What I assume was the Centaur rocket was at the "pointed" end of the fuel dump cloud. Initially it was about 9th magnitude. What I assume was the payload was about 1 degree north of the Centaur. Initially it was about 8th magnitude. The fuel dump cloud was south of the Centaur, so it was away from the payload. Both objects were tracked in the 8 inch for over 2 hours. The Centaur gradually faded down to about magnitude 11.5 or 12. The payload faded to about magnitude 10, then brightened to magnitude 8 about 6:19UT. It stayed bright for about 12 minutes, then faded. Later it brightened to magnitude 9 for a while before going back down to about magnitude 10. We gave up and headed home about 7:00UT. Perhaps Spacecom will release elements for the Centaur. I hope I obtained some positional measurements on both objects that will allow me to compute elements for both. Mike McCants Austin, TX 30.33N, 97.76W