I am now mirroring kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov and archive.afit.af.mil (the elements directories). Hopefully the new software will update the files sucessfully unlike the previous package. The mirrors start at ftp://ftp.physics.ox.ac.uk/pub/sat/mirrors/ The main elements directory still exists and consists largely of symbolic links to the key element files from the mirrored sites so that you can grab all the key files from one directory instead of hunting around. Note that I have now dropped the uncompressed versions of Ted Molczan's file (new_molc) and Allen Thomson's file (new_elem); the symlinks point to the compressed files from the mirrored sites. If you don't possess gzip or UNIX compress you can uncompress them during the ftp transfer by dropping the suffix from the requested file. For example get new_molc will grab the file new_molc.Z, uncompress it and transfer it to your machine. By adding the suffix you can compress binary/text files to speed up your transfers if you wish. Obviously there is little point trying this with the *.gz *.Z files! regards, -- Neil Clifford <n.clifford@physics.oxford.ac.uk> http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/sat/satintro.html